Safety of the 2nd bolt on Bare Metal Teen is uncertain.

Post by **Roentgen Ray** » Fri Jun 18, 2004 7:25 pm

I have been on Bare Metal a couple of times these past few days (with the weather being so nice and muggy, who could resist?) and noted that the rock under the second bolt is breaking away. The bolt probably can hold body weight, but if you are unsure of your ability to climb to the third bolt, you should stick the third or pray you don't fall. Given the slime growing on the routes at Torrent, extra precaution would be prudent. Does anyone know the rebolt master for the RRGCC? I didn't see a name during my cursory search made moments ago.

Post by **Spragwa** » Fri Jun 18, 2004 9:05 pm

Man, thanks for the info. Although I'm nowhere near climbing the teen, it's great to know. If you post the same message on rrgcc.org, the bolt faeiries will come.

Post by **t bone** » Fri Jun 18, 2004 9:31 pm

You should contact mark meyers the owner of torrent falls. He has bolts to fix the problem. I can fix it next weekend for him, if someone cant do it right away

Post by **Roentgen Ray** » Sat Jun 19, 2004 2:46 am

I hope to go to Torrent Monday (if I find anyone to come along with me). If I make it out, I will look for Mark and speak to him about the bolt. I haven't noticed any other problems on the route and suspect that mending this one hole might be all she needs for awhile. Thanks for offering your services t bone. I would offer to help you next weekend, but I'm fixin' to go to Eldo Canyon or maybe Shelf Rd next weekend, leaving on Tuesday.

Post by **t bone** » Sat Jun 19, 2004 3:02 am

Thanks for the info. I will also try to contact by phone tommorow. Eldo and Shelf are great.

Post by **Roentgen Ray** » Sat Jun 19, 2004 2:34 pm

I've been to Eldo, and it was a blast. I haven't been to Shelf yet. Looks like there are enough places that we can chase the shade and thus avoid the oven like temp's I expect we'll have. Can't wait! Any recommendations on a good 12a/b at shelf?

Post by **SikMonkey** » Sat Jun 19, 2004 6:26 pm

Well, I have been thinking (and feel free to flame me/dispute me/whatever), that bolt has been manky for a long time and for a reason: maybe...just maybe, if you are in danger of falling going 2nd to 3rd on BMT, you might be in a bit over your head. Maybe? I have seen guys fall on that bolt after I EXPLICITLY warned them about it and told them make sure they had the beta worked out beforehand. The bolt didn't blow though, so maybe I am just being overly cautious. So whip away!

In all seriousness though, the bolt is old and probably needs replaced just for good measure. Thanks for offering to do that for us T-Bone!

Mj

Post by **Roentgen Ray** » Sun Jun 20, 2004 12:06 am

I understand your point, Mr. Monkey. However, there are a lot of things to consider. For one, I don't think Mark wants anyone to get hurt on his property. Bad for business. Secondly, someone who may have the ability to RP BMT could fall going from bolt 2 to 3 the first time or two they try the route. Lastly, the conditions have been less than favorable lately and someone who normally cruises that area could slip off those pastey holds. I always say, it's better to be a healthy milksop than a gimped-up stalwart

Post by **t bone** » Sun Jun 20, 2004 1:35 am

I contacted mark, i will checked out and fixed asap, Little Mecca 12b at shelf is favorite if mine.

Post by **Roentgen Ray** » Sun Jun 20, 2004 3:27 am

Checked out Little Mecca via http://climbingboulder.com/community/album/813.html
has a picture of Matt Findley climbing. I suppose if Findley can do the thing, I oughta give it a go. Sounds like a tricky route. Thanks for the beta.