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Bail Beaners

Posted: Fri Jun 11, 2004 4:55 pm
by OZ
Why do climbers leave several draws on a climb when they bail? Wouldn't it make more sense to lower off just one draw or should you have that much back up? I've gotten more booty this way. Seems like it's a waste of money.

Posted: Fri Jun 11, 2004 5:57 pm
by rhunt
what climbs? Maybe those are project draws and they are leaving them on hard clips?

I use a stick clip to get to the anchors if I can't do the moves or have to bail for other reasons.

Posted: Fri Jun 11, 2004 6:11 pm
by tomdarch
Uh, super genius, as project draws, you need to get those back to their owners. Bail 'biners are just that - a single 'biner left on a bolt.

Posted: Fri Jun 11, 2004 6:17 pm
by Guest
naw man, if Oz is a trad climber, those draws are booty. Especially if there is a red tag on the first bolt.

Posted: Fri Jun 11, 2004 6:46 pm
by OZ
Uh, super genius, it would be really hard to give them back since they don't have names on them. The two ropes I got didn't have names, either.
Man, if you are that stupid to leave stuff in the woods...

Posted: Fri Jun 11, 2004 7:09 pm
by Jeff
Sniff, sniff, what's that I smell?
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Posted: Fri Jun 11, 2004 9:35 pm
by Roentgen Ray
I encourage all climbers to think safety first. When lowering from an unfinished route, leave two draws on the route. One for lowering, and one for back up in case of failure. OH yea, make sure they're Petzl, and let me know when and where you've been climbing.

Posted: Fri Jun 11, 2004 9:42 pm
by Yasmeen
R-Ray, I left a bail rack at the top of one of the Calypso routes... I figured I'd build an anchor and then bail off the backup anchor. It's yours if you can send the thing.

Posted: Fri Jun 11, 2004 10:06 pm
by Roentgen Ray
Sweet Yasmeen! I've needed a good reason to bust out my new trad rack.

Posted: Fri Jun 11, 2004 10:18 pm
by OZ
Thanks for the answer Ray. I figured two draws would be enough so that's why I couldn't understand why all the others would be left behind also. Maybe the newer climbers that are bailing on all that backup will get a clue and not do it anymore. Bummer though for the ones that don't know any better.