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Posted: Wed Mar 03, 2004 8:39 pm
by Guest
FYI, I just added a second listing for this route in the on-line guidebook (finally!). We now have both the original and the direct start as seperate entries for your spraying pleasure.
Thanks for the heads-up, Spoonman.
Posted: Wed Mar 03, 2004 9:15 pm
by Astroman
Sandy,
That is good only for historical purposes. No self-respecting 5.13 climber even CONSIDERS doing the original start due to the risk of being ridiculed by others that may happen by. Therefore I hope nobody tries to "spray" about an illegimate ascent using the lesser, long forgotten original start.
Uh oh. I just checked the online guide. Too late...
Astroman
Posted: Wed Mar 03, 2004 9:21 pm
by Guest
oh yeah, I meant to tell the hoardes of climbers who have sprayed about this route that you have defaulted to the pansier (original) start in the guidebook with this change. If you did the worthy, direct start, you will need to update your spray.
Posted: Wed Mar 03, 2004 9:26 pm
by Power2U
Now now. The original line is the true classic 8) ... it is what Porter originally envisioned when he bolted it. If you have climbed the "direct start" you would know that it does a fair amount of traversing and most people have to use a "cheater stack" to reach the start holds. On top of this when you stand back and look at the wall, the original line makes as much if not more of a plum line up the cliff.
BTW, thanks for rebolting the line, Lurkist
The upper crux bolt was kinda manky.
BTW Astroman I don't see your name on either version in the Spray section
Posted: Wed Mar 03, 2004 9:34 pm
by the lurkist
a more aesthetic line doesn't exist. porter's greatest single contribution. His ability to see the line the rock presented was his forte.
In this case the direct start is clearly the logical and purer form of Table.
Also climbs better.
Posted: Wed Mar 03, 2004 10:27 pm
by Horatio Felacio
fuck you lurkist. i know plenty more aesthetic lines than that pile of rotting human excrement. for example: the reacharound, possum lips, the sport routes at lost ridge...and the list goes on.
Posted: Wed Mar 03, 2004 10:30 pm
by rhunt
yo piggie you got something to say?
Posted: Wed Mar 03, 2004 10:34 pm
by the lurkist
"yer one rude son of a bitch, private joker. Hell, I'd bet you'd butt fuck a man and wouldn't have the courtesey to give him a reach around."
ah, the old reach around.... lest we forget. one of Keith's better route names. true that.
Posted: Wed Mar 03, 2004 11:26 pm
by Astroman
Power2U, somehow I knew you would check my list and point out that I've never sent the (real) route. Long, long ago I tried it and fell at the upper crux (actually for you that would be the only crux). Never went back to get it done (the real way). Too much else to do...
Posted: Thu Mar 04, 2004 4:45 pm
by Power2U
I hear ya' there is a lot to climb with so little time. I have been on the "direct start" and liked it a lot. I actually plan on trying to get it done this spring... we'll see
The only point I would like ot make is that the "original" start is just as good of a line as the "direct".
Maybe I'll see you at LF