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After reading Shannons post today ,I had a scary thought. If Charmagne is monitoring this site to use in court,A whole lot of twisted humor is going to look bad. Maybe we need a disclaimer up top? Not everyone will realize that stuff is off the wall.

That's been going on for years with the FS.
Thought everyone knew it but didn't care, but a dis-claimer would be a good idea!

That's what the RRGCC has been saying for years. And trust me, they do read...

...all posts made to these forums express the views and opinions of the author and not the administrators, moderators or webmaster (except for posts by these people) and hence will not be held liable.

Disclaimer upon registration.

Maybe you should broaden that?

I seriously doubt anything written on an internet message board will have any credibility in a court of law. Sure, they may be reading this stuff in order to know what's going on in the climbing community, but any lawyer who actually tries to introduce this crap as 'evidence' would probably be laughed out of the courtroom. It's obvious that the vast majority of posts here are humorous, and impossible to tell which are serious or to prove who actually wrote them.

I guess you just need to figure out what/who you're trying to protect. If you're afraid that a post on this site will be used by the oil company in court (sounds very far fetched to me, though) then this disclaimer will protect against that. Personally, I think you'd have to be an idiot to read this board and lump each poster's opinion into a group mindset.

I agree. Can't think of a judge who would lend credence to the stuff posted on this site. Veiled threats against the workers could be taken seriously though...but probably only if a worker was injured. But who knows, the stuff that can come back and bite you in the butt in a Court of law would amaze you. Sometimes I read transcripts thinking...what the hell? But in reality, it would be difficult to introduce any of this into evidence. There are rules against it.

I would be worried more about pictures than internet posts. Remember when we were telling the FS that climbers were not the ones camping along the cliffline/building fires and then the FS produced pictures of climbers camping and building fires? I would not be suprised to see the oil company produce pictures of the alleged disgusting acts. We know they have been taking down license plates which could then be used in court to attempt to make a link between the presence of climbers, specific individuals, and various actions. Only one or two incidents with a good argument could be very embarrassing in court.

It's not just the matter of whether or not it is admisable but the fact that they read it and that can alter their actions against the climbing community. It is the percepetion or misleading that can cause harm.