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Flat Holler

Posted: Thu Sep 05, 2013 5:39 pm
by krampus
Admittedly, I have been on the fence lately about the way we clear out 6 foot wide trails on trail day. Is a more conservative approach better and all that? I understand the desire to keep the natural landscape so maybe there is some middle ground that is being overlooked. So on Saturday, when the heat and mank killed my proj sending hopes I had the opportunity to walk the trails of flat holler. It was truly a pleasent experince as we have several years of data all within a mile or so of hiking. You can actually walk along the rough developers trails then on to the most recent excavation points, then on to the areas from last year, and finally the trails I personally helped to develop from 3 JATD's ago. I remember leaving 2 years ago and the fresh cut trail looked very similar to those created a few weeks ago.

Now that I have seen all three, I am stuck feeling kind of silly. We live in one the areas that may actually benefit from global climate change and the vegitation growth rate is stellar. 2 years after creating these seldome used trails, they were perfect, plenty of ground cover but no painful eye gougers or toe stubby tree stumps. Nothing but solid trail, even the 1 year old trail looked great, just not as full. There will always be improvement possibilities as some sections of trail are just hard to figure out (like the creek crossing area, please don't start whining about that, it is obviously a dificult section and time will tell if it is completed) but I am sold on our current method of trail building. I encourage everyone to check those trail sections out if you are uncertain of our impact or just want to see some good progress in action.

We have some heavy lifing ahead of us to finish flat holler and miller fork, I hope that more people will help independant of trail days. I encourage people to attend the rocktobefest trail building seminar.

Re: Flat Holler

Posted: Thu Sep 05, 2013 11:39 pm
by Josephine
Thanks Krampus! I know Driskell and Tackett have worked super hard to change the way we do things so that it will be sustainable. Both of these men are highly trained in sustainable trail building and it's nice to hear them get some of the credit they deserve!

Re: Flat Holler

Posted: Fri Sep 06, 2013 12:10 am
by DriskellHR
The "godfather" Tackett is the one who brought us the process. I was just his bitch long enough to pick up just enough of it not to f*** it up.

Re: Flat Holler

Posted: Fri Sep 06, 2013 12:50 am
by One-Fall
That really is an amazing section of trail. Very pretty hike too.

Thanks for the work.

Re: Flat Holler

Posted: Fri Sep 06, 2013 6:00 pm
by caribe
Flat Holler, why isn't it in the online guide?

Re: Flat Holler

Posted: Fri Sep 06, 2013 6:29 pm
by clif
http://www.redriverclimbing.com/RRCGuid ... all&id=163

is that it? i haven't checked that out but also the walls more directly across from the motherlode parking had a pretty nice trail up to where we did J&A day last year-

Re: Flat Holler

Posted: Sat Sep 07, 2013 12:00 am
by Josephine
caribe wrote:Flat Holler, why isn't it in the online guide?
Ray controls the online guide. You would need to ask him to add it. Adding areas is a LOT of work and I know he's got a lot of irons in the fire right now so I"m sure it'll will get there eventually :-)