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Someone dropped at the Lode....again
Posted: Mon Oct 03, 2011 1:15 pm
by Artsay
A guy got dropped from a route in the cave yesterday, about 30-40ft up and landed on a boulder. He walked away but I'm guessing he's not in such good shape now; he bashed at least one foot when he landed.
I saw the whole thing and his belayer looked confused as to what happened. My guess is he held the grigri open while pulling slack out for the belayer and then held it open when the guy fell. What shocked me most was after it happened someone near me said that same belayer had dropped them before on another occassion.
Re: Someone dropped at the Lode....again
Posted: Mon Oct 03, 2011 1:24 pm
by climb2core
Damn, I can't tell you how many times I saw people belaying with their break hand on the gri gri to feed out rope as the climber ascends. It is scary how common place that is becoming.
Re: Someone dropped at the Lode....again
Posted: Mon Oct 03, 2011 1:26 pm
by climb2core
Artsay wrote: My guess is he held the grigri open while pulling slack out for the belayer and then held it open when the guy fell.
Maybe belaying with hand on gri gri? (vs switching from rope to gri gri to feed out slack and then back to rope)
OR...
Back fed gri gri?
Re: Someone dropped at the Lode....again
Posted: Mon Oct 03, 2011 1:28 pm
by DriskellHR
Decking used to be big news (about 10 years ago) Now its just another weekend in the red.
How about use an ATC?
Re: Someone dropped at the Lode....again
Posted: Mon Oct 03, 2011 1:34 pm
by fyj434
Most of the time it is user erro never the belay divice... not like useing and atc would have made anything better
Re: Someone dropped at the Lode....again
Posted: Mon Oct 03, 2011 1:40 pm
by Shamis
fyj434 wrote:Most of the time it is user erro never the belay divice... not like useing and atc would have made anything better
I never hear about ATC droppings. They are very rare.
Re: Someone dropped at the Lode....again
Posted: Mon Oct 03, 2011 2:02 pm
by lena_chita
Shamis wrote:fyj434 wrote:Most of the time it is user erro never the belay divice... not like useing and atc would have made anything better
I never hear about ATC droppings. They are very rare.
Not very many sport climbers belay with an ATC these days, and not many trad climbers who ARE belayed with an ATC are taking the number and the kind of falls that sport climbers take so casually, so I don't see this as surprising.
A guy was dropped with an ATC from the top of Kick Me in the Jimmie a couple of years back, was very lucky to walk away. I've climbed with him recently. His belayer supposedly had something like 10 years of experience and never belayed with anything other than ATC.
I've said it before, I have seen more people belaying wrong with a gri-gri at the Lode than I've seen people belaying wrong with a gri-gri at Bruise Brothers.
Re: Someone dropped at the Lode....again
Posted: Mon Oct 03, 2011 2:04 pm
by krampus
Shamis wrote:
I never hear about ATC droppings. They are very rare.
Actually, I would think that ATC scat does not exist, even when it is fed properly
Re: Someone dropped at the Lode....again
Posted: Mon Oct 03, 2011 2:11 pm
by Andrew
A guy was dropped at the lode on resurrection with an atc this month
Re: Someone dropped at the Lode....again
Posted: Mon Oct 03, 2011 4:15 pm
by Clevis Hitch
80% reduction in population would put us back on track.