So I started eating meat again.

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So I started eating meat again.

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http://www.sentientdevelopments.com/201 ... again.html
This self-righteous phuck should go back to living on tofu. A prick like him doesn't deserve bacon.
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You might want to repaint your soapbox, it's looking a little dingy.
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hmmmm. much of what the author has to say is suspect. He is examining a single data point in time.
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caribe wrote:hmmmm. much of what the author has to say is suspect. He is examining a single data point in time.

Isn't examining a single data point in time what life is all about...I think we call that "living the moment" which we should do more and analyze less :D
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tutugirl wrote:
caribe wrote:hmmmm. much of what the author has to say is suspect. He is examining a single data point in time.
Isn't examining a single data point in time what life is all about...I think we call that "living the moment" which we should do more and analyze less :D
This leads to unreliable folklore and old wives tales instead of repeatable trends with error bars, etc.
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caribe wrote:
tutugirl wrote:
caribe wrote:hmmmm. much of what the author has to say is suspect. He is examining a single data point in time.
Isn't examining a single data point in time what life is all about...I think we call that "living the moment" which we should do more and analyze less :D
This leads to unreliable folklore and old wives tales instead of repeatable trends with error bars, etc.
You are one boring dude! :lol:
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Just speculating here, but I wouldn't be at all surprised to learn that the healthiest diet would resemble what we ate for most of our evolutionary history. This diet would certainly contain some meat. Whether or not the proposed "Paleo Diet" actually resembles the ideal natural diet - I haven't a clue. I think this guy is probably right in his current believe that a meat free diet is less than ideal. I just don't like the way he looks down on meat eaters (other than himself) as rude and crude carnivors. But, he's made an important first step, perhaps he will learn to be more understanding of his fellow man. After all he's a futurist/ethicist and all that shit, and as such must be pretty smart, hey?
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There are certainly many aspects of how we digest/absorb foods that would indicate we were designed to have meat in our diets, not totally carnivorous, but definately some meat components. Iron is the most notable. We absorb heme-bound iron, which is found almost exclusively in meat, much more readily than non-heme iron, plus MFP-factor, which is found only in animal flesh, increases our ability to absorb non-heme iron. Vegetarians always point to the high iron content in dark greens such as spinach but never seem to realize that plants with high iron content are only high in the not-easily-absorbed non-heme iron and that they typically contain various chelating agents and fibrous entities that inhibit iron absorption. Those with vegetarian/vegan diets have a higher incedence of anemia because of this. Like other carnivors and omnivors, we have short, relatively inefficient digestive tracts with proteases that are very good at breaking down animal proteins but pretty crappy at breaking down a lot of the fibrous proteins found in plants.

Plus, don't kid yourself. If we didn't eat cows, they surely would eat us. http://pandasthumb.org/archives/images/ ... he_cow.JPG
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Sugar and Flour will kills us all, It is simply the most common and least "natural" items in our modern diet.
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mike_a_lafontaine wrote:There are certainly many aspects of how we digest/absorb foods that would indicate we were designed to have meat in our diets, not totally carnivorous, but definately some meat components. Iron is the most notable. We absorb heme-bound iron, which is found almost exclusively in meat, much more readily than non-heme iron, plus MFP-factor, which is found only in animal flesh, increases our ability to absorb non-heme iron. Vegetarians always point to the high iron content in dark greens such as spinach but never seem to realize that plants with high iron content are only high in the not-easily-absorbed non-heme iron and that they typically contain various chelating agents and fibrous entities that inhibit iron absorption. Those with vegetarian/vegan diets have a higher incedence of anemia because of this. Like other carnivors and omnivors, we have short, relatively inefficient digestive tracts with proteases that are very good at breaking down animal proteins but pretty crappy at breaking down a lot of the fibrous proteins found in plants.

Plus, don't kid yourself. If we didn't eat cows, they surely would eat us. http://pandasthumb.org/archives/images/ ... he_cow.JPG
Ah, someone who actually knows what they're talking about.
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