REPORT PROBLEMS with 3RD edition of guidebook

[ASK]

Just bought the 3rd edition (printed)... Looks great, BUT:

there are certain problems with it... such as, for example, the numbering of the routes in "Funk Rock City" chapter is all screwed up (shifted by -1 starting with #14) (e.g. Eye of the Needle is numbered #15 blue/sport (which it is) in the picture and map, but is #14 red/trad in the text, etc) This is somewhat confusing, and I imagine can be VERY confusing to those looking for new routes to climb and using the book as a guide (such as most of us)... And this problem is kinda frustrating to find in this otherwise great guidebook
In the "FRC" chapter, the problem was caused by elimination of one route (#14 in the 2nd edition), but not changing the numbering correspondingly in pictures and maps.

I haven't read the book in any more detail just yet, and haven't seen any other problems... yet... But I have a feeling that there might be more.

I suggest we report the typos and mistakes in the 3rd printed edition here as we find them... Perhaps it'll be helpful for the time being... Perhaps the publisher will consider re-printing and re-placing the printed version with a corrected one ??

-- AK

[ray]

Thanks for posting that. In this edition we pulled away from the numbering system I inherited from John Bronaugh's guides and tried to switch to either left-to-right or right-to-left numbering for all of the crags. It required a lot of changes to route descriptions, images, topos, etc. We thought all of the issues were caught but I guess not.

Reprinting the book is a pretty big deal so it probably won't happen. We are updating the changes for the app though which I guess is a good advantage for the app version. Sorry it caused confusion and I hope it didn't screw your day at Funk Rock up.

[ASK]

Ray, thanks.
Please, don't get me wrong -- the book is GREAT. In fact, I wish all guidebooks were THAT good.

That said, I think we should correct any problems and make them known, so there is no confusion. I don't know how is best fo fix things like that... E.g. in scientific journals they publish follow-up notes with corrections... Anything like that would work in this case?

No, I personally didn't have problems with FRC (thanks for asking)... I know it well enough to instantly recognize the typo in the book. I was more concerned for folks coming there for the 1st time...

Again, great job on the new book. Thanks!! A lot of people, myself included, were waiting for this to happen for quite a while
--AK

[ASK]

Natural Bridge, The Zoo: page 191, #15, Aviary (5.12b, sport): the book says "20 ft, 12 bolts... Use a 70-m rope..." This, of course, should be 200 ft (not 20 ft). So obvious that it's not even a problem (somebody else found this typo, but I'm posting)

[der uber]

I don't have it in front of me, but I recall seeing a picture of a climber on Nagypapa and it was called The Legend in the caption.

[jimmy]

The topo to The Dark Side is a little off. It looks like it was off in the 2nd edition too, so hopefully we can get it corrected in time for the highly anticipated 4th edition. What is shown in the topo as #8 (Shanghai) & #9 (Big Burley), are actually #9 (Shanghai) & #10 (American Dream).

[ray]

Thanks for this stuff guys. We're fixing in the iPhone app as it's reported.

[symardila]

In page 156 . Funk Rock City, the route numbered as 31st appears as a sport (blue) climb in the description, while in the picture appears as a Trad (red). The same happens with #25 and #26 i9n the same page.

[nfox512]

The picture for DaVinci's Left Ear and Smack Dab at The Gallery is drawn wrong. There should be two climbs left of the big Hueco, and it labels the one it has drawn as DaVinci's Left Ear instead of Smack Dab.

[Andrews]

Natural Bridge, The Zoo: page 191, #15, Aviary (5.12b, sport): the book says "20 ft, 12 bolts... Use a 70-m rope..." This, of course, should be 200 ft (not 20 ft). So obvious that it's not even a problem (somebody else found this typo, but I'm posting)

I think the typo was more likely for 120 feet...