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I have a Ruger LCR 38 special+p for sale. I have a high hip holster for it. The whole package loaded and in the holster doesn't weight 30 ounces. This is a very light gun. It is Idea for backpacking and camping and home/self defense. The hammerless design allows it to be fired from inside a coat pocket or allows it to be drawn from regular jeans pocket with out hanging up on the fabric. Its new and in the box having never been fired.

http://www.ruger.com/products/lcr/index.html


$480 with holster and box of shells

Grrr I might be interested in that. There's been a lot of bad things going on in my neighbearhood lately grrrr. Does it come with any berries?

+P really helps the somewhat long in the tooth 38 special round

do you have it in baby blue?

To even think that a .38 special, +P or not, would be sufficient to defend against a bear attack is nonsense. This round does not have enough velocity to penetrate to any effective depth after passing through fur; the velocity is further reduced by the snub barrel of the LCP. In fact, the 'hottest' .38sp rounds barely meet the FBI minimum penetration standards after passing through a single layer of denim. For comparison, there is some debate whether a .45 auto +P is sufficient for bear, but nearly everyone in the outdoor/hunting world seems to agree that the minimum caliber is .357 magnum. The difference between a .38sp and .357mag is tremendous.
Now, the Ruger LCR is a terrific gun, I own one myself. With practice and careful shots it is probably enough to use for (human) self defense. But it should absolutely not be thought of as appropriate for use against bears.
And, in my opinion, unless the holster is a very nice one, $480 is a high price. A careful shopper can find them new in gun stores for barely over $400; "shells" are at most $20 for 50 (or no more than $25 for 20 self-defense rounds).

Better aim for the mouth and eyes.

jeeze i think you are taking this threads name a little too seriously. i am sure he was wanting to sale the gun before the bear attack and is now just using that as a marketing joke. a .38 special is a little too weak for bear hunting, but it will work great for hunting people!

after passing through fur? fur? really? i can't imagine that an inch or two of fur would slow a bullet significantly.

and can't that gun shoot .357 rounds, anyway? what would hollow point .357 rounds do to a bear compared to .38 special?

heacocis wrote:minimum caliber

I think "caliber" is not really the word he wanted... minimum round, maybe?

toad857 wrote: and can't that gun shoot .357 rounds, anyway? what would hollow point .357 rounds do to a bear compared to .38 special?

its the reverse, .357 can shoot the shorter .38 rounds.