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Probably been discussed before, but....
I can think of a handful of established unpublished crags at the Red, and I'm wondering 1) how many total unpublished sport climbs you think there are 2) Why are some crags not included (probably access issues, but in some cases it seems like access should be fine)

My guess: 100 unpublished sport climbs if you don't count ones where the bolts have been pulled (i.e. hominy hole)

2. Cuz I don't know about them.

Good job. Now pawilkes will have unfinished 11 nightmares.

Saxman wrote:Good job. Now pawilkes will have unfinished 11 nightmares.

Nightmares? More like long-term psychological issues for which he should seek professional help.

schwagpad wrote:Probably been discussed before, but....
I can think of a handful of established unpublished crags at the Red, and I'm wondering 1) how many total unpublished sport climbs you think there are 2) Why are some crags not included (probably access issues, but in some cases it seems like access should be fine)

My guess: 100 unpublished sport climbs if you don't count ones where the bolts have been pulled (i.e. hominy hole)

Unpublished where? In the latest printed guidebook, or in the online guidebook?

Unpublished anywhere. There are a lot of cliffs here and there that were never officially published because of access or people wanting to keep it to themselves.

For example Crossroads had bolts on it for a long time before it was ever published.

You mean there are cliffs where people go and climb and they don't get points for it? What the hell is up with that?

I agree with bcombs, what the hell

lower slabs at roadside... i think those are all known and no access issue that i know of.

I know of a large cliff with many routes that I won't publish because the developer doesn't want it to be published.