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Will the Aliens Fail?
Posted: Tue May 26, 2009 5:05 pm
by ahab
here's the actual thread on RC.com:
http://tinyurl.com/qehs5a[/url]
to save you from reading 18 pages of headache, it breaks down something like this:
1. dude that tests the breaking strength of various climbing equipment tests some
used aliens and they fail under spec
2. shit storm ensues between alien loyalists and alien defectors concerning the validity of testing used/bootied cams
3. it is decided that 5
new aliens should be tested
4. a paypal account is set up for climbers to donate money to purchase new aliens
so the question is: will the new Aliens fail below their listed strength ratings?
Posted: Tue May 26, 2009 5:09 pm
by krampus
new aliens aquired, old aliens tested, break below strength rating, new aliens used to climb........suckers 8)
Posted: Tue May 26, 2009 5:56 pm
by ahab
hmm, a genius scam kramp. i would tweak it a lil bit though...
new aliens aquired, gear4rocks cams purchased on ebay tested, break below strength rating, new aliens and used aliens added to personal rack.
Posted: Tue May 26, 2009 6:14 pm
by Saxman
After skimming through the thread, I am interested in the metal used to make the cams since there appears to be some question as to hardness.
Posted: Tue May 26, 2009 6:31 pm
by ahab
sax, do you use aliens?
Posted: Tue May 26, 2009 6:41 pm
by bcombs
Yep, he pulls the trigger to take them out while cleaning on TR.
Posted: Tue May 26, 2009 6:58 pm
by bentley
we saw this guy breaking stuff at the NRG event the other weekend. It was amazing how weak the aliens were.
On the flip side of that Bart's cams did AMAZINGLY well!!
I don't know the link to his site...
Posted: Tue May 26, 2009 8:46 pm
by Saxman
Ahab: no, I don't own any. Of course, I would hope no climbing company would cut any corners, but we all know the drive for profit may make some people cut into previously determined margins of safety either through choice of materials, craftsmanship, and/or testing.
Posted: Tue May 26, 2009 9:48 pm
by c_mejean
yeah, those gear4rocks cams are sweet! I sold my C4's for a full rack of em
Posted: Wed May 27, 2009 11:56 am
by ahab
adatesman wrote:Of the 13 new Aliens (including 2 offsets, dates ranging from 408 to 509), only 5 failed above their rated strength. The percentage of the rating held ranged from 63.3% to 116.7%, with an overall average of 94.3%.
Of the 9 used Aliens (dates ranging from early/mid 1990's to 1204), only 2 failed above their rated strength. The percentage of the rating held ranged from 54.7% to 105.0%, with an overall average of 81.9%.