Changes out 9b ?

Post by **Steve** » Mon Jun 16, 2008 5:14 pm

This is an excerpt from an e-mail I recieved from the FS. Looks like you'll be able to get in a nice long hike to crags out past Dip Wall.

The USDA Forest Service (Forest Service) is proposing to implement an action titled the East Fork Indian Creek Stream Restoration Project. The actions planned for this project involve:

Removing the cement culvert and cement plank crossings, along with the sediment accumulated behind them.

Restoring sections of streams. Approximately 550-feet of altered stream will be replaced by 660-feet of restored stream at the downstream cement culvert crossing, and approximately 1,900-feet of altered stream will be replaced with approximately 2,300 feet of restored stream at the upstream cement culvert crossing. In addition, approximately 300-feet of altered stream will be replaced with 360-feet at the upstream cement plank crossing. The total length of restored stream will be approximately 3,400-feet. Portions of the altered stream channels will then be changed into wetlands to provide habitat for animals, plants, and to capture sediments.

Restricting vehicular access on approximately 0.9 miles of FDR 9B. Following completion, the public will no longer be able to drive past where the upstream cement culvert crossing is now located. This change will protect fish and aquatic organisms because the cement structure will be replaced by a low water crossing that will not be suitable for public motor vehicle use. People will continue to be invited to walk into this area and use it as before.

Alteration of dispersed camping opportunities along the East Fork of Indian Creek. The project may affect some of the dispersed camping sites along the creek. The Forest Service will attempt to move these undeveloped sites to higher ground to help the environment and provide dispersed places for camping.
This project will help the environment by removing two cement culvert stream

Post by **pawilkes** » Mon Jun 16, 2008 6:46 pm

sounds like they are just taking out the concrete ford that is already washed out anyhow. it would be nice if they provided a foot bridge to cross the river up there.

Post by **Wes** » Mon Jun 16, 2008 7:02 pm

No, this would be the 1st ford, not the 2nd that is near IC. And, sounds like a good idea to me! Will make that hike to lost wall a bit long though!

Post by **Danny** » Mon Jun 16, 2008 7:48 pm

Having to walk an extra mile to get to Purple Valley, Indian Creek etc sounds like a big pain in the ass to me.

Post by **Rags** » Mon Jun 16, 2008 7:58 pm

sounds like a good idea to me--while inconveniencing climbers it would limit the number of car campers and overuse of that area.

Post by **pawilkes** » Mon Jun 16, 2008 8:06 pm

wow, that does kinda suck. i guess it'll be nice and quiet up there but that'll be a long ass hike. i wonder what they'll do with the road, maybe you'll be able to ride a bike up it still

Post by **Wolf** » Mon Jun 16, 2008 8:10 pm

Any idea when this action will be implemented?

Post by **Wes** » Mon Jun 16, 2008 8:12 pm

I know it would be more work for the climbers, but I still think closing all of 9a/b like they did to fix the road would be a good thing overall. It would give the red some actual remote climbing that would really lend it self to backpacking or biking in Friday night, climbing Saturday and Sunday, then heading back out again. But, that said, I want to be sure to do any rebolting work before they close the road!

Post by **Danny** » Mon Jun 16, 2008 8:12 pm

pawilkes wrote:i guess it'll be nice and quiet up there but that'll be a long ass hike.

It's already nice and quiet back there almost always.

Post by **512OW** » Mon Jun 16, 2008 8:16 pm

Theres rock climbing out there?