Is the RRGCC Making the Grade?
has anyone driven in one of my cars before? I sold my last car to Frank at "Po boy used tires" for 50 buck. My current car over heated and boiled cooland for 35 minutes after the small hill to Coal Bank. I definitely do not drive down the mother load hill anymore. Yet somehow, my dog and I always seem to climb there often enough. Hell, one day at a climbing gym can cost you 20 bucks just to climb there. Any day at the PMRP should justify some sort of donation.
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Clevis Hitch
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Thats a county owned road. Its an election year. Robert Stamper is running for magistrate of district three. Which happens to be all of the S.R. Maybe you should call. Also The Judge Executive is running as are all of the major officers. So call up all of them and get a pledge from them. Even better thing to do is when you stop in at Koops to get your bologna and cheese. Tell Donna or better yet old man Koop himself. You see business can bring political pressure to bear....
The judge executive and the magistrates are the one who desigates a county road for maintainence. Bald Rock road has been accepted by the county and is under their care.
The judge executive and the magistrates are the one who desigates a county road for maintainence. Bald Rock road has been accepted by the county and is under their care.
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Ooh, looks like I touched a nerve!
For the record, here's what I actually said:
The fact of the matter remains, the Lode hill is bad. I drive a Saturn with horrible ground clearance that I'm not willing to run the risk of destroying the exhaust on in order to climb in the PMRP, so I have to either carpool or find another place to climb when I head to the Red. And yes, for the record, I "know how to drive", so you can forget that whole argument as well.
I can't say I know of anyone who hasn't donated to the RRGCC just because they can't access it, but the fact of the matter remains-
This area holds over 500 routes, nearly a full quarter of the routes in the gorge as a whole, and despite one of the most amazing access initiatives ever undertaken by a private group of climbers, there are many, many people who still feel as though a lot of this area is to a degree "off limits"
All I'm saying is that I'd at least like for this idea to be put on the table. Wasn't that the whole point of this thread in the first place?
For the record, here's what I actually said:
Please note that all of these said climbers were still at Rocktoberfest, helping to pay the RRGCC's lease. No doubt many of them also volunteered, giving up their personal/party time for what they saw to be a suitable cause....there were a lot of climbers at this last years' Rocktoberfest who couldn't even climb at the area the festival was being held to pay for, due to the rain...
The fact of the matter remains, the Lode hill is bad. I drive a Saturn with horrible ground clearance that I'm not willing to run the risk of destroying the exhaust on in order to climb in the PMRP, so I have to either carpool or find another place to climb when I head to the Red. And yes, for the record, I "know how to drive", so you can forget that whole argument as well.
I can't say I know of anyone who hasn't donated to the RRGCC just because they can't access it, but the fact of the matter remains-
This area holds over 500 routes, nearly a full quarter of the routes in the gorge as a whole, and despite one of the most amazing access initiatives ever undertaken by a private group of climbers, there are many, many people who still feel as though a lot of this area is to a degree "off limits"
All I'm saying is that I'd at least like for this idea to be put on the table. Wasn't that the whole point of this thread in the first place?
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charlie wrote:These discussions with Triad are ongoing. We know the road is a problem, but so far there aren't any terribly simple solutions.
In the past we donated funds ( $2K annually) for Charmagne and Lee county to grade it. It's on the radar, just haven't managed to work anything out with Triad yet.
Sounds like it's already on the table
Jay - really liked your post. And I'd like to make some responses.
1. Smaller trails days - great idea and we're running with it. You can also take initiative if you see a problem and want to get people together to fix/improve whatever. Just please contact Mark Jackson (Snake) before proceeding.
2. The meetings at Torrent this year will be held in the evenings, on the weekends post climbing. The one coming up will be inconvenient to all because the weather sucks for climbing so we have to make a trip down there (as we do each winter) just for a meeting. Other than this one, it should align with your climbing trip. And, you'll get to climb at Torrent. Yay!
3. I can't answer the paving question but I do believe that the road would become dangerous in precipitous weather, particularly snow if it were paved. That's my only thought against paving the road.
4. Charmaine is now Triad and so far, we have good ties with them. And we're doing what we can to keep it that way.
1. Smaller trails days - great idea and we're running with it. You can also take initiative if you see a problem and want to get people together to fix/improve whatever. Just please contact Mark Jackson (Snake) before proceeding.
2. The meetings at Torrent this year will be held in the evenings, on the weekends post climbing. The one coming up will be inconvenient to all because the weather sucks for climbing so we have to make a trip down there (as we do each winter) just for a meeting. Other than this one, it should align with your climbing trip. And, you'll get to climb at Torrent. Yay!
3. I can't answer the paving question but I do believe that the road would become dangerous in precipitous weather, particularly snow if it were paved. That's my only thought against paving the road.
4. Charmaine is now Triad and so far, we have good ties with them. And we're doing what we can to keep it that way.
Re: Is the RRGCC Making the Grade?
i voted "B".captain static wrote:How would you grade the RRGCC's performance for 2009?
to avoid redundancy in an already redundant thread, i would like to echo RRO and Jay's posts.captain static wrote:- What do you think the RRGCC did well in 2009?
- What do you think the RRGCC could do better in 2010?
- Are there any things the RRGCC is not doing that you think should be done in 2010?
- What do you think the RRGCC's top three priorities should be for 2010?
If you would like your input to be confidential, please email your comments to bill(at)rrgcc.org
a side note:
you guys rock. it makes me proud to be a part of the largest privately owned climbing venue in the country. keep up the good work and don't let the naysayers here or anywhere else getcha down. imagine if it were up to them to keep climbing access open...i shudder at the thought.
cheers.
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DriskellHR
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Eric Cox
I wonder what climbing in the Red River Gorge would be like if the RRGCC had never happened....
Although I might not agree with everything that they do or the way they do it, the truth is these guys are doing all of what they do to help rock climbing advance in the Red and without them, climbing here wouldn't be what it is today. I quit a good career as an electrician to live down here and serve the people that are in business to advance rock climbing in the Red, so if there isn't climbing, I may have to move away and that will suck! If you rock climb here on a regular basis you really need to held out and if the dates that the RRGCC host don't line up with your schedule, then find another venue to serve at.
Finding a way to help is real easy.
My Vote:
RRGCC-A
Muir Valley-A
Torrent-A
Roadside-A
Red River Gorge-A
Miguel's Pizza and a host of other folks that supply our needs-A+++
The Red River Gorge kicks ass!
Although I might not agree with everything that they do or the way they do it, the truth is these guys are doing all of what they do to help rock climbing advance in the Red and without them, climbing here wouldn't be what it is today. I quit a good career as an electrician to live down here and serve the people that are in business to advance rock climbing in the Red, so if there isn't climbing, I may have to move away and that will suck! If you rock climb here on a regular basis you really need to held out and if the dates that the RRGCC host don't line up with your schedule, then find another venue to serve at.
Finding a way to help is real easy.
My Vote:
RRGCC-A
Muir Valley-A
Torrent-A
Roadside-A
Red River Gorge-A
Miguel's Pizza and a host of other folks that supply our needs-A+++
The Red River Gorge kicks ass!