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Posted: Mon Aug 06, 2007 1:55 pm
by JR
LK Day wrote "I really enjoyed the protection game when I was climbing, and took some pride in the fact I generally carried a small, light, and varied collection of pieces, and could often turn X rated routes into Rs, and most Rs into PGs."

I think the fact that you liked to go light shows me you were headed in the right direction. The direction that climbing indeed went. However, most climbers never even consider playing this game you speak of. In my opinion the Game is what is the hardest thing can I climb or even more to the point what is the hardest single move can I do. If you haven't noticed you don't even need one stopper, hex,or even cam. Most people use a crash pad to play this game. But being as most people around here live closer to the Red than they do boulders they have draws. Believe it or not these same romantic notions you have about your routes and gear placements some relatively new climber is laying awake at night thinking about one itsy-bitsy target hold that he or she can't seem to stick.

Posted: Mon Aug 06, 2007 1:59 pm
by pigsteak
Shiva maybe?

Posted: Mon Aug 06, 2007 2:57 pm
by JR
Exactly!

Posted: Mon Aug 06, 2007 3:59 pm
by Crankmas
simiplification is the goal but a bouldering mat ain't gonna do much on the hard move 5 pitches up the Diamond! its all a game till somebody ....

Posted: Tue Aug 07, 2007 12:58 pm
by 512OW
TradMike wrote:We don't need no stinken racks.
Ok. Andromeda Strain then the Inhibitor, right?

Posted: Tue Aug 07, 2007 1:01 pm
by 512OW
Crankmas wrote:simiplification is the goal but a bouldering mat ain't gonna do much on the hard move 5 pitches up the Diamond! its all a game till somebody ....
Not true. That bouldering mat could easily prepare you for the hard move 5 pitches up on the Diamond. Thats the whole point of it, after all...

Posted: Wed Aug 08, 2007 4:12 pm
by JR
Crankmas wrote:simiplification is the goal but a bouldering mat ain't gonna do much on the hard move 5 pitches up the Diamond! its all a game till somebody ....
Come on guy. Lets see here... What is the hardest thing on the Diamond? Most likely a Tommy Caldwell route. Dollars to Donuts that Tommy has a crash pad.