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Re: News re Muir Valley
Posted: Wed Apr 23, 2014 9:05 pm
by MoHAlixPr
damn if only there was a way to mix my passion for dinosaurs AND climbing...
Re: News re Muir Valley
Posted: Wed Apr 23, 2014 9:53 pm
by Meadows
Potts:
The RRGCC does a fine job at keeping the roads maintained and within a reasonable budget, but they can't jump on it every weekend because the ignorant (are you one of them?) do not own 4WD or don't have a clue how to drive their low-riding two-wheel drive up a hill (yes, it can be done correctly). And where is the massive, steep hill that ALL climbers get to access in Muir? From the Road to the parking lot, I recall none. Only those with permission to the Valley floor get that privilege, unless something has changed (haven't climbed there since '09).
Since doing some LNT education, we have made a change at our crags. Did I say, 'our'? It's not perfect, but the climbing has been more than worth the effort to keep trying.
But, hey, if you want to toss an annual 80K to the RRGCC for the luxuries you need so much, don't let me stop you. Maybe you'll get lucky and they'll install an espresso bar for you too.
Re: News re Muir Valley
Posted: Wed Apr 23, 2014 11:07 pm
by climb2core
bob wrote:For shame, I have only recently logged into this mess and I am appalled. Good god … give and give until it hurts. Preserve the land and it will be there for your children and beyond. Why would anyone question the motives … it is given. Why would anyone piss on past issues, we are over that. RRGCC vs. Muir Valley, who actually believes this shit?!!! We can do it we have done it before and can do so again. It is something that we can make happen. Sorry about the hyperbole ... it has been suggested I get over myself
Re: News re Muir Valley
Posted: Thu Apr 24, 2014 12:45 am
by ynp1
The RRG, would have been better off today if Muir Valley never happened. But we can not go back in time, so maybe it would be better if we keep it open, so all the gym climbers can go there and crater and get flown out via heli pad.
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Re: News re Muir Valley
Posted: Thu Apr 24, 2014 7:52 pm
by bcircell
ynp1 wrote:The RRG, would have been better off today if Muir Valley never happened.
This is likely the dumbest thing that I have ever read on the internet. Ever.
Re: News re Muir Valley
Posted: Thu Apr 24, 2014 8:03 pm
by c-foot
You can add Disney World to locations passing your test. Oh yeah I don't go there either.
Re: News re Muir Valley
Posted: Thu Apr 24, 2014 9:05 pm
by Rotarypwr345704
ynp1 wrote:The RRG, would have been better off today if Muir Valley never happened. But we can not go back in time, so maybe it would be better if we keep it open, so all the gym climbers can go there and crater and get flown out via heli pad.
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Ok, I'll bite. I'd love to hear your logic on this one... Like your avatar says: You're still a dumbass
Re: News re Muir Valley
Posted: Thu Apr 24, 2014 10:05 pm
by Toy
It's cute when trolls fight, but like masturbation, it's completely unproductive. If you don't plan to contribute anything to the dialog outside of long lining, just bow out. Both groups will get my contributions. Shouldnt be a zero sum game. Miri has it's place just as does the rest. I'm glad it's their. You can't argue it keeps the herd thinned out.
Re: News re Muir Valley
Posted: Thu Apr 24, 2014 10:12 pm
by whoneedsfeet
Toy wrote:It's cute when trolls fight, but like masturbation, it's completely unproductive.
You're doing it wrong then.
Re: News re Muir Valley
Posted: Thu Apr 24, 2014 10:27 pm
by Toy
Could be. Some get more practice than others. I'm sure your technique is far superior.