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dustonian wrote:That's right, Pinkpoint--Twinkie could be the next victim!!!

dustonian wrote:It's strictly a pragmatic issue Kipp... white is there and not coming off, so let's limit our impact. While you may be philosophically/aesthetically "correct" from one perspective, this has little bearing on the issue of limiting ticks on more routes, be it white, blue, red, fuschia, whatever. If blue chalk were the historical local standard and some kid starting ticking every last hold in white with 4" stripes that were difficult to remove, that would be an issue too.

Also, the colored chalk sticks are chemically distinct with an oil resin, meant to adhere to sidewalks and chalkboard for long periods. Put your fondness for debate and rhetorical abstraction aside for a second--you can't honestly tell me that you think it is OK to tick mark classic routes from head to toe with a second color of chalk that is even harder to brush off? I wonder what Rick & Liz or the Gray's Branch USFS rangers would think if big blue ticks starting popping up all over Military, Left Flank, Midnight Surf, or Solarium? White is the accepted standard around here (& almost everywhere else) as it has been for over 20 years, changing it now or adding a second color to the mix is plain idiotic. Aesthetically equivalent in theory perhaps, but tantamount to graffiti at this point in the game.

Here's an idea--if you like another color more, then powerwash and scrub all the white chalk off at Secret Crag #x and post a big sign or two saying blue, or green, or purple, or beige or whatever freakin' color you like is the local standard at that crag. But pick one and stick with it, that's all that's expected. Hell, even say no chalk is the local standard--your call. But the reason white is popular is because it is the cheapest, simplest, purest, and easiest to package and sell--it is just magnesium carbonate after all.

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Clevis Hitch wrote:really, I would think that the only people complaining about what color the chalk is/was are climbers. What difference does it make for land managers if the chalk is white or blue or green or red? Honestly, the guy has it coming bad enough for graffitti'ing up the routes without demonizing him for "shutting down" access.

BTW. If said land managers are looking at the chalk they'd have to step over your dog and your gear, not to mention the dead guy who just got decked by his" I've been climbing ten years and thats never happened before!" belayer...

Ain't the truth a muthafucker!!

dustonian wrote:Climbed Far From God today and those blue ticks are indeed not coming off with a standard Black Diamond climbing brush. Thanks for defacing a beautiful route, dude from Alaska. Same can be said of the top bit of Girls Gone Wild....awesome job, douchebag.