blue tick marks

[dustonian]

That's right, Pinkpoint--Twinkie could be the next victim!!!

[climb2core]

That's right, Pinkpoint--Twinkie could be the next victim!!!

If you use his blue tick beta, is it a blue-point?

[steep4me]

The problem with blue is that it makes much more contrast to the rock than white. It looks like spraypaint and less natural than a chromatic color like white. Also, I don't tick routes at all (ok, I put one tic on a route 3 yrs ago and brushed it off when I sent the route). When you brush chalk tics off a route, there is always a residue. Blue residue is uglier and easier to see than white residue. Also, the steep routes don't get washed. If this was some sucky slab place like J tree or something, it wouldn't matter as much.

I think anyone using colored chalk on routes is a f-ing idiot narcissist (sorry blue chalk person, but if you are an f-ing idiot narcissist, you won't care at all about my opinion anyway).

[shear]

It's strictly a pragmatic issue Kipp... white is there and not coming off, so let's limit our impact. While you may be philosophically/aesthetically "correct" from one perspective, this has little bearing on the issue of limiting ticks on more routes, be it white, blue, red, fuschia, whatever. If blue chalk were the historical local standard and some kid starting ticking every last hold in white with 4" stripes that were difficult to remove, that would be an issue too.

Also, the colored chalk sticks are chemically distinct with an oil resin, meant to adhere to sidewalks and chalkboard for long periods. Put your fondness for debate and rhetorical abstraction aside for a second--you can't honestly tell me that you think it is OK to tick mark classic routes from head to toe with a second color of chalk that is even harder to brush off? I wonder what Rick & Liz or the Gray's Branch USFS rangers would think if big blue ticks starting popping up all over Military, Left Flank, Midnight Surf, or Solarium? White is the accepted standard around here (& almost everywhere else) as it has been for over 20 years, changing it now or adding a second color to the mix is plain idiotic. Aesthetically equivalent in theory perhaps, but tantamount to graffiti at this point in the game.

Here's an idea--if you like another color more, then powerwash and scrub all the white chalk off at Secret Crag #x and post a big sign or two saying blue, or green, or purple, or beige or whatever freakin' color you like is the local standard at that crag. But pick one and stick with it, that's all that's expected. Hell, even say no chalk is the local standard--your call. But the reason white is popular is because it is the cheapest, simplest, purest, and easiest to package and sell--it is just magnesium carbonate after all.

This.


It's all about the accepted "norm"...and the fact that the chalk in question is chemically different than climbing chalk. Which is way f-ing harder to get off than the white stuff.













....and the fact that it's just irritating as hell and plain retarded. Stop ticking with teachers chalk moron.

[steep4me]

Kill him, everyone knows why. It doesn't really need discussion. If I was at an out of state crag and a local let me know I was doing something stupid and irritating to the crag & local community, I would apologize and change what I am doing. It's social skills 101.

[toad857]

[Clevis Hitch]

+1

[captain static]

really, I would think that the only people complaining about what color the chalk is/was are climbers. What difference does it make for land managers if the chalk is white or blue or green or red? Honestly, the guy has it coming bad enough for graffitti'ing up the routes without demonizing him for "shutting down" access.

BTW. If said land managers are looking at the chalk they'd have to step over your dog and your gear, not to mention the dead guy who just got decked by his" I've been climbing ten years and thats never happened before!" belayer...

Ain't the truth a muthafucker!!

Really, we tend to see things through climber colored glasses. I am talking about people in whom in an open public meeting with the USFS said they considered bolts to be trash. Imagine what they consider chalk to be.

[dustonian]

Climbed Far From God today and those blue ticks are indeed not coming off with a standard Black Diamond climbing brush. Thanks for defacing a beautiful route, dude from Alaska. Same can be said of the top bit of Girls Gone Wild....awesome job, douchebag.

[Rotarypwr345704]

Climbed Far From God today and those blue ticks are indeed not coming off with a standard Black Diamond climbing brush. Thanks for defacing a beautiful route, dude from Alaska. Same can be said of the top bit of Girls Gone Wild....awesome job, douchebag.

I'm gonna start blue ticking your mother while I'm climbing her. Shut the Fuck up already.