Christians?

Post by **tbwilsonky** » Fri Jan 08, 2010 5:37 pm

the "in" thing is being a pre-Constantine Roman Paganist. it goes well with my red Reebok high tops and my faux-hawk.

Post by **gripster** » Fri Jan 08, 2010 5:49 pm

I know I am not cool

Oh well, could be worse.

Post by **pigsteak** » Fri Jan 08, 2010 6:11 pm

caribe wrote:
pigsteak wrote:birthdate? pffft...Dec 25th
This simply can not be and jive with other aspects of most of the stories in the gospels.
pigsteak wrote: no death date....pfffft....friday before Easter, every year....
Well, for quite a few it was Nisan 14, not for all though.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quartodecimanism

dude. tongue in cheek....

Post by **caribe** » Sat Jan 09, 2010 3:24 am

pigsteak wrote:
caribe wrote:
pigsteak wrote:birthdate? pffft...
dude. tongue in cheek....

How am I supposed to pickup on that Mr. It-Costs- me- just- much- not -believe -as -it -does -to -believe?

Post by **pigsteak** » Sat Jan 09, 2010 4:17 am

lol...I always thought several things were wierd with christianity when I attended church...first, christmas and easter were held as some sort of sacred dates, yet they are guesstimates, so why not just celebrate year round instead of forcing it.

second, people tell you to pray with the faith of a mustard seed, pray specifically, etc yet at the same time ask for God's will in all things...seems a bit of a contradiction to me. example: people pray for safety during a christmas drive, but they die in a car accident anyway..the "church" answer is either they are with the lord, it was the lord's will, etc..then why did we pray specifically again? he"answers" the prayer, it is God listening to the faithful...he doesn't "answer" the prayer, then either he has better things for your life or his vast knowledge trumps your desires....that part is a crock....christians would be better served acknowledging that prayer is a very weak vessel to faith. and these catch all excuses for failed prayer look very ridiculous.

and third, why does church music suck so bad?

Post by **bcombs** » Sat Jan 09, 2010 4:27 am

pigsteak wrote:....why does church music suck so bad?

Clearly you never went to a Stryper show: http://stryper.com/

Post by **bcombs** » Sat Jan 09, 2010 4:29 am

Oh man.. these dudes were a trip.

http://www.stryper.com/Media/Photos/YBA ... BA1_fs.jpg

To Hell with the Devil!

http://www.stryper.com/Media/Audio/Samp ... 0Devil.mp3

Post by **caribe** » Sat Jan 09, 2010 6:21 am

pigsteak wrote:example: people pray for safety during a christmas drive, but they die in a car accident anyway..the "church" answer is either they are with the lord, it was the lord's will, etc..then why did we pray specifically again?

Wow, if you get that then . . .

Post by **pigsteak** » Sat Jan 09, 2010 1:40 pm

actually bcombs, let me tell you my Stryper stories in person. I went to 3 concerts of theirs, I have every CD, and I have all their autographs...true stuff. "To Hell..." had a limited edition Japanese CD printing that I bought for $100.

Stryper was right in the heart of cheese glam metal in the 80's, and I actually was a huge fan.

Did you know they are back together and touring. Wanna go?

Post by **dipsi** » Sat Jan 09, 2010 2:38 pm

pigsteak wrote:lol...I always thought several things were wierd with christianity when I attended church...first, christmas and easter were held as some sort of sacred dates, yet they are guesstimates, so why not just celebrate year round instead of forcing it.

second, people tell you to pray with the faith of a mustard seed, pray specifically, etc yet at the same time ask for God's will in all things...seems a bit of a contradiction to me. example: people pray for safety during a christmas drive, but they die in a car accident anyway..the "church" answer is either they are with the lord, it was the lord's will, etc..then why did we pray specifically again? he"answers" the prayer, it is God listening to the faithful...he doesn't "answer" the prayer, then either he has better things for your life or his vast knowledge trumps your desires....that part is a crock....christians would be better served acknowledging that prayer is a very weak vessel to faith. and these catch all excuses for failed prayer look very ridiculous.

and third, why does church music suck so bad?

Okeydokey, I'm back on here against my better judgement.

I agree with you on the subject of prayer, Piggie. I have my own philosophy about God and prayer. It may not concur with other Christians' ideas, but, quite often, neither does Christ Centered Yoga. I mean to offend no one here.

Anyhoo, in my relationship with the Trinity, I believe that we are given life and after we receive that gift, we are set in motion on a path. We have, unfortunately, sad occurances along our paths. Why some folk have more sadness than others, I honestly don't know. Why did my sisters each lose a child? Why did I lose a baby? Why did my marriage fail? Why did I have alcoholic parents and have to be a mother to siblings? Not trying to gain sympathy here, just giving personal examples. My troubles pale when I see others less fortunate.

Along our path, we, fortunately, also have joyful occurances. My sisters have other children to give them comfort. I had three other children to love while I miss the baby I didn't know. I have found joy in being single and making my own way. Because, I was a mother to my siblings, I found parenting an easy task. So many people appear to have had it easier than I, but I really don't know the troubles they have had.

So, what is the point of being a Christian if it's all just going to happen anyway? Let me see if I can explain how it is for me.

God, to me, has always been a Friend. Someone I can turn to in my darkest moments. Someone I can share my joys with, and, someone I can share anger with when things don't go the way I think they should. I can't remember a time when I didn't know Him, and at the end of the day, I have always had someone with whom I can find comfort. I don't ask Him for much, since the gift of life seems pretty sustantial, I do ask God for some things, like patience and strength. I also, ask that my loved ones be safe, though in my heart, I know that they also have a path to follow, and it will not always be filled with joy.

I honestly don't believe that God interferes with our walks down our paths. We have been given an example in Christ of how we should walk. We should try to follow His teachings, do no harm, and keep litter off our paths. Anyone who knows me, knows I fall short....way short, perhaps even in my philosophy. What happens to us along our paths affect others, particularly, those who love us. How long are the paths we walk? I believe only God knows that. Someone told me that Miguel once said, "We're here as long as we are supposed to be." None wiser than Miguel. At the end of my path here on Earth, I can only hope that I have walked in a way that will give my loved ones comfort in knowing that my path didn't end.

Live and let live. Namaste.

(And, Piggie, apparently you haven't heard me and my daughters sing

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