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pigsteak wrote: oh yeah that's three...and somewhere in there he actually snowed the voters with his persuasive speeches. Iraq...still there....Afghanistan...more coming people...10% unemployment..right on target....largest deficit in our countries history (used to be the Bush legacy, but now Obama wears the ring)...check....health care that sucked up to special interests on both sides...perfectly done....being more of a coddling centrist than a reformer...that'd be him...talking with Iran...lol, I see where that got us (I think THEY said F Obama)...yawn, I am tired thinking about the deeper hole we are in, and only 37 more months to go...

Our misery index (unemployment + inflation) is up from 7.24 from when Bush left to 11.84; it hasn't been that high since the late 40s/early 50s.

caribe wrote:

pigsteak wrote:disagreement would acknowledge two sides making valid points. your side asserts there is no other side...

This statement is not true.

pigsteak wrote:its more than disagreement from you guys

This statement is not true. This statement is not true. None of the people you mentioned hate Christians. I love people who mean no ill will even though I disagree with them. Hopefully I can tell you that you are wrong, dead wrong, and you don't parse it as hate.
[] When you back me into a corner with argumentation, I too am an agnostic about many things, even the existence of god(s).

ok, let me also rephrase... it comes off as smug, condescending and hateful...and whether we mean it to be that way, I can assure you to some on the other side it does feel as though they are being belittled for their views.

as far as you and I go, you know we are cool. I love to argue you with, because I come away knowing how little I know when we are done. and growth comes from our poverty.

and that is it for me. What a great ending. Love to all.

caribe wrote:

dipsi wrote:As a Christian, I am being faced with prejudice more and more. Even on this board, and FYI, I notice that the criticism is limited to Christians.

Prejudice as a Christian on the board? How do people know you are Christian so they can prejudge you? Do you really think people keep records of that stuff? Disagreement does not qualify as prejudice. Your post has me a bit confused. Perhaps you could do a little more explaining?

Am I to assume then that if a person reading this board is black or gay, and we do not know he or she is black or gay, the prejudice excludes that person? Do we keep records of that stuff?

Apparently, I have misjudged intentions, and for that I sincerely apologize. You will notice that I said even on this board. My explanation is this:

When I read here, or on facebook, constant criticism of Christians, but no referrences to other religions, what am I supposed to believe? If one does not believe in God, so be it, and I respect that, but why single out my God? If the referrences had been to "radical Christians," I would tend to agree, but that has not been the case. I'm not blind to the preposterous behaviors of many Christians, which makes me prejudiced in a way. That is the reason I no longer subscribe to organized religion. My relationship with God is personal, and the comfort I find there makes this life a better place. I would be happy to discuss that with anyone interested, but would never try to push my beliefs.

I admit that I am probably not the best example of a good Christian, but I try not to hurt anyone.

Sorry, Piggie, I think we were posting at the same time.

I will take leave now and apologize again to anyone I have offended.

Peace.

Meadows wrote:

pigsteak wrote: oh yeah that's three...and somewhere in there he actually snowed the voters with his persuasive speeches. Iraq...still there....Afghanistan...more coming people...10% unemployment..right on target....largest deficit in our countries history (used to be the Bush legacy, but now Obama wears the ring)...check....health care that sucked up to special interests on both sides...perfectly done....being more of a coddling centrist than a reformer...that'd be him...talking with Iran...lol, I see where that got us (I think THEY said F Obama)...yawn, I am tired thinking about the deeper hole we are in, and only 37 more months to go...

Our misery index (unemployment + inflation) is up from 7.24 from when Bush left to 11.84; it hasn't been that high since the late 40s/early 50s.

government is like a train. what one person started doesn't just "stop" once the new conductor takes over. it takes time. tjink if bush had been in for another 4 how much deeper it might/might not be. time/

Bush's inherited index: 7.29 (and it never went above 8.48 and it started at 7.93)
Obama's inherited index: 7.29 and now we're currently at 11.84

i'm not trying to give too much kudos to Bush because he was a wack job but I'm getting nervous about my future.

I think it's funny to listen to a bunch of white people talk about racism.

Meadows wrote:Bush's inherited index: 7.29 (and it never went above 8.48 and it started at 7.93)
Obama's inherited index: 7.29 and now we're currently at 11.84

i'm not trying to give too much kudos to Bush because he was a wack job but I'm getting nervous about my future.

Could you source this, Meadows? I saw something back a ways but don't feel like searching it out again.

We have inherited over a decade of mis-rule by conservatives and the whole house of cards started to collapse in early 2008. To blame this crap on Obama or the Democrats is bogus. Not that they're not moving aggressively enough to really staunch the bleeding, they're putting pressure on the wounds. It took a complete government take-over of our economy (WWII) to get us out of the last collapse of this size. If our financial system really has stabilized Obama and team have worked a miracle, regardless of momentary measurements.

On a side note, Bush and crew spent eight years blaming every last thing that was wrong on Clinton despite the fact he had a Republican controlled Congress. Now, slightly less than a year into his administration the Republicans are blaming EVERYTHING on Obama. State of the financial system? Obama. State of the war(s)? Obama. State of the national security apparatus? Obama.

Our current conditions are the result of conservative action to repeal all the laws that were put in place to protect us from the conditions that led to the Great Depression. It took just shy of a decade after the repeal of Glass-Steagall for the entire financial system to implode. This is the fault of the conservatives. Just remember that fact.

By the way, this is racist:

dipsi wrote:Am I to assume then that if a person reading this board is black or gay, and we do not know he or she is black or gay, the prejudice excludes that person? Do we keep records of that stuff?

I have not been prejudged on this board for squat and neither have you. Your opener threw me for a second there. Initially I reacted to Crankmas linking Obama's race with his hate. Previously Crankmas linked Obama's racial features to his hate. I stated that these are strong indications that Crankmas is a racist. I also stated that Crankmas has a right to be a racist, but I don't have to hang around him. I did not feel personally attacked by Crankmas.
[] Largely the anti-christian stuff on here has been in response to Christian posts and has been logic instead of hate based. Christianity is a theory about the world, historical events and a theory regarding ethical behavior. We have to be able to discuss Christianity or anything else for that matter. The reason people pick on Christians is because this is a Christian nation.
[] Your brand of Christianity seem harmless to me Dipsi. You seem to be focused on living in harmony with everything around you.

Alan Evil wrote: Could you source this, Meadows? I saw something back a ways but don't feel like searching it out again.

http://www.miseryindex.us/

Wiki it for an overview of each president. Plus, it's in my econ text.

spoken like a true liberal alan...well done for playing the lock step card of all big govt libs everywhere. they'd be proud.

it is so refreshing to see your independent thinking in play....