Best 11c

Post by **Andrew** » Thu Jul 16, 2009 6:55 pm

Maybe we do because we know what buttons to push with you and you react just the way we want. Thank you for hours of entertainment for us.

Post by **gripster** » Thu Jul 16, 2009 7:56 pm

Andrew wrote:Maybe we do because we know what buttons to push with you and you react just the way we want. Thank you for hours of entertainment for us.

likewise guys.

Post by **ahab** » Thu Jul 16, 2009 8:09 pm

<ahem>
so far it's something like:

no place like home - 6
banshee - 5
BBBB - 4
centerfire - 4
there goes the neighborhood - 2
electric cowboy - 2
lip service - 2
game boy - 1
awol - 1

thanks for the to do list!

Post by **pawilkes** » Thu Jul 16, 2009 9:43 pm

what about the route at the load? it had two votes, the other 11's next to it are alright too and if you go up to Buckeye buttress, you have a full day of 11 climbing

Post by **Wes** » Thu Jul 16, 2009 9:49 pm

No place like home = 11a/b, 30 foot 5.6 choss free solo to first bolt, plus 30 more feet of easy climbing + two bolts of 5.11 + 30 foot 5.10 slab.
Banshee = no way it is even 11b, more like 11a - one v1 boulder problem down low, to 5.10 climbing at best with two sit down rests.
BBBB - yep - even a bit heady for the grade.
centerfire - 11b like all the routes on the 11 wall
There goes the neighborhood - High first bolt, two hard moves, 5.10 vert with big rests the rest of the way
elecritc cowboy not sure about the cheating thing, but pretty much some 5.10 climbing to a bit weird finish. 11a/b
lip service = muir, so therefor at least a grade soft.

Post by **pawilkes** » Thu Jul 16, 2009 11:10 pm

yeah, listen to the arm chair climber about how soft everything is...

Post by **Wes** » Thu Jul 16, 2009 11:25 pm

pawilkes wrote:yeah, listen to the arm chair climber about how soft everything is...

Yep, though I have sent all the routes but lip service. And flashed / onsighted half of the rest of that list. Of course, that was all back in the day and shit, like three years ago. Plus, I think a few of the ones on the list so far are solid - sick puppies, BBBB, Breathe Right, etc. So, not saying they are all soft, just some of them. Plus, maybe a little bit of humor, or just take things a little bit less serious?

And just for fun, the softest 11c in the red is jack the ripper. 10d/11a at best...

Post by **anticlmber** » Fri Jul 17, 2009 12:52 am

never saw anyone being egotistical.

andrews just a tool sack
rusty just says he finds trad climbing ghey. no ego just his opinion.

and yes, its obvious you hate hard climbers.

don't worry i do to since all of them are girls.

Post by **Meadows** » Fri Jul 17, 2009 10:47 am

I like Dave's rating on Lip Service - Maybe as soft as an 11b in the Winter, 11c in milder temps and in the summer, a 12a.

Post by **Brentucky** » Fri Jul 17, 2009 11:38 am

Meadows wrote:I like Dave's rating on Lip Service - Maybe as soft as an 11b in the Winter, 11c in milder temps and in the summer, a 12a.

ditto for Apotheosis Denied although i doubt it ever reaches 12 status.