Posted: Wed Jun 17, 2009 2:06 pm
"Most of today’s high-end trad ascents are really just sport ascents that incorporate removable gear into the performance."
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interesting article. i am sure talk of "ground up" route climbing should inspire some more comments about how super-gay NC climbing ethics are.
Alex Honnold wrote:No one climbs cutting-edge trad ground-up and onsight simply because, one, it’s a waste of time, versus dogging it and just getting it done. Two, you basically can’t onsight 5.14 trad since there are less than 15 of them in the world. The old-school definition of trad is dead. Or rather it has moved into the alpine and on to walls. The single-pitch stuff is basically sport climbing unless you make yourself do it ground up, and then that just begs the question, why bother?
can't link it due to work place surf control, but go to youtube and search "honnold + belly full of bad berries"pigsteak wrote:see, even honnold knows trad climbing is an oxy moron...
clip the bolts, you chuffers.
Breaking News Flash, everyone pay attention or you may suffer untold consequences........rhunt wrote:I feel so vindicated. Now do you see that there is no trad climbing at the red. ......