Nevermore

Post by **RRO** » Tue Oct 06, 2009 5:16 pm

same shit , more or less the same people its just a different day.

nevermore sucks, nevermore rules, we should chop the bolts, we should leave them as is huh huh huh.

beavis and butthead reruns bring way more to the table, at least they had something original to say.........i swear im bout ready to bitch slap everyone i see...

Post by **pigsteak** » Tue Oct 06, 2009 5:21 pm

lmao..I figured not being on here had made you happier RRO. why not take that anger and come back and join the smut-fest?

Post by **captain static** » Tue Oct 06, 2009 5:23 pm

Tackett can log out anytime he wants, but he can never leave

Post by **Jeff** » Tue Oct 06, 2009 5:42 pm

Nice line Bill!

Post by **Cleveland** » Tue Oct 06, 2009 10:22 pm

How can you say it's a bad route? The climbing is fun and unique in most parts. It even get more than just a little spicey at times. The view at the end of the 3rd pitch is amazing and I now finally inderstand what that big white square you see from the road is. Is this route hated on b/c the approach is so long or what. All i have hear people say is it is a choss pile, I only saw two or three pieces of choss on the route. So let's get to the real reason why some people are hatin. If it's that bad let's hear it pitch for pitch what makes it sooo terrible?

Post by **TradMike** » Wed Oct 07, 2009 2:04 pm

I is a little on the dirty side. I can see why someone who is purely into just climbing would not like it. But if you enjoy big air, panoramic views and being scared it's leaning towards a climb to do.

Post by **Cleveland** » Wed Oct 07, 2009 2:17 pm

TradMike wrote:I is a little on the dirty side. I can see why someone who is purely into just climbing would not like it. But if you enjoy big air, panoramic views and being scared it's leaning towards a climb to do.

A little on the Dirty said is correct, but I found to be true only for the second pitch which isn't that hard anyway. Other than that all the other things you mentioned are dead on, especially the exposure!

Post by **Wes** » Wed Oct 07, 2009 4:15 pm

So, after talking over PBR with Tackett last night, I have decided to officially withdraw my negative review of nevermore. If you are coming through the grades in the red, and haven't climbed many other places, it does have a sense of adventure, exposure, etc that might overcome it shortcomings. So, if you are a 5.9 trad leader, you should put it on your to do list.

PS, I still am not a fan of the new bolts though. Maybe just one new bolt, then remove the other two? Just sayin'

Post by **charlie** » Wed Oct 07, 2009 4:30 pm

Heh, cool! Someone remembers me from when I used to climb!

People make things too complex around here.

I am instituting 3 new rules (and unlike Piggie I am not trying to troll anybody and I've climbed something other than bolted routes on sandstone).

Rule #1 = Did you try today?
Rule #2 = Did you catch yourself smiling?
Rule #3 = Did you not throw any tantrums or otherwise get in the way of other people smiling?

If you satisfied these conditions you are doing it right and there's no reason to give a feck what anyone else thinks about anything. Pass judgment on my liking of any route around here, I couldn't care less.

Charlie (my turnoffs include buzzkills)

Post by **Cleveland** » Wed Oct 07, 2009 5:33 pm

Wes wrote:So, after talking over PBR with Tackett last night, I have decided to officially withdraw my negative review of nevermore. If you are coming through the grades in the red, and haven't climbed many other places, it does have a sense of adventure, exposure, etc that might overcome it shortcomings. So, if you are a 5.9 trad leader, you should put it on your to do list.

PS, I still am not a fan of the new bolts though. Maybe just one new bolt, then remove the other two? Just sayin'

Thanks for comin around Wes

I also agree with chopping the bolts. The leader found aweome pro directly befor and after the crux.