talking to gumbies

[512OW]

Once I told somebody (who clearly was somewhat experienced - not their first day) that their harness legloops were not double-backed. He replied "I know...." That messed with me a little, that he didn't say "oh thanks, bro, you are the coolest!"

Maybe thats because it doesn't matter in the slightest whether he's even wearing leg loops or not.


I don't often give advice, opinions, beta, or anything more than encouragement unless asked. Of course, sometimes I ask if they want beta when they're butchering an otherwise beautiful piece of climbing.

The only time I jump in for safety reasons is if someone is really gonna get hurt. Broken ankles?? That'll teach em.

[der uber]

Maybe thats because it doesn't matter in the slightest whether he's even wearing leg loops or not.

Really... that's news to me. So why are they on there, comfort? Practically speaking, you're correct that he wouldn't have gotten hurt.

He was on tr, indoors even, and wasn't likely to fall. That said, I erred on the safe side and pointed out that the buckles weren't fastened to completion. I see the smae thing happen often with wait buckles, and even though the individual has done a few tr runs already, and probably will be ok, I say something to make sure they are aware that thy're not wearing the harnes to the manufacturer's spec.

I will concede, though, that it wasn't a life saving moment, when I pointed out the legloop thing.

[TradMike]

If you ever drop your harness.

[der uber]

That's pretty cool looking. Anyone taken a whipper with that set up?

[512OW]

I see all these kids in the gym climbing with their shoes untied, cuz it looks cool.

I can't wait till it becomes cool to have your harness unbuckled. I love carnage.

[hamsco]

I let Crankmas do all the talking at the crag. The gumbys usually leave soon after with a puzzled look on their faces.

[Josephine]

I let Crankmas do all the talking at the crag. The gumbys usually leave soon after with a puzzled look on their faces.

now THAT'S a good idea!

[charlie]

Hell yeah, the Crankmas outreach program. Sign me up!

[Meadows]

Back to the original poster on this topic ... Josie ... it's hit or miss with people. Take concern if you so choose, and some will be responsive, others will not. The most effective approach I've seen (and worked on me) is questioning people about possible scenarios should such and such fail. It takes skill and knowledge on your own part, but it doesn't offend the intellect/experience of a person. It gets them thinking and hopefully concerned and receptive to your ideas.

Easier said than done though - I'm far too abrasive and impatient for that kind of approach.

[pru]

the old standby "the last guy I saw who did that died" is usually an attention getter. Even better, leave it at that, and leave. Good times.