Climbing Photo Thread, Vol. 2

Post by **Andrew** » Thu Jun 21, 2007 5:09 pm

Oh, the jokes.

Post by **ElectricDisciple** » Thu Jun 21, 2007 6:00 pm

why did you clip a draw into the racking biner of the cam? Shouldn't you have a) clipped the rope directly into the cam or b) clipped the biner into the webbing of the cam?

It's bad to clip metal-on-metal isn't it?

Post by **rhunt** » Thu Jun 21, 2007 6:21 pm

its not ideal. maybe she corrected it after the pic was taken.

Post by **pigsteak** » Thu Jun 21, 2007 6:51 pm

better than the rope tied into her belay loop....airbrush it out.

Post by **ynot** » Thu Jun 21, 2007 10:16 pm

you can see all sorts of things like that on video. Stuff you don't even realize you are doing while on lead, like your foot behind the rope.

Pru · Post by **Pru** » Thu Jun 21, 2007 10:38 pm

it's a belayer's job to point those things out to you

Post by **Josephine** » Fri Jun 22, 2007 3:55 am

eh - the belayer was way too low to see that piece. besides - i really don't think it's ever fair to criticize the belayer for a climber's error. ultimately, we are responsible for our own safety.

metal on metal may not be ideal but, quite frankly, i was a bit sketched pulling that bulge. i figured clipping directly into the racking biner would cause too much rope drag getting around the budge. perhaps i should have picked an easy 5.4 to start with so that there were no challenging spots and i would have been thinking more clearly. but i didn't.

as far as metal on metal - i never quite understood why that is so bad. after all in sport climbing it's ALWAYS metal on metal (bolt + quickdraw). tried to do a search to find other threads about it on a couple forums to no avail. perhaps this is a whole 'nother discussion. in fact - so that we don't completely divert the photo thread i'll post that question in the appropriate forum.

i guess this is why i'm a BEGINNING trad leader and make no claims to the contrary.

Post by **ynot** » Fri Jun 22, 2007 11:46 am

I agree with Pru. My belayers have saved me from several mistakes. It's always been a good call. Hooking the draw biner through the cam sling is better. You can leave both biners there. A sling would be even better than a draw but we all know it's aesy to run out of slings. I had a dozen at Seneca and still ran out of them. 10 or 12 should do for the Red. I like racking them around one shoulder with one biner on each. that way you clip the sling to the cam's biner and rope to the single biner. no wasted time or biners.

Post by **Wes** » Fri Jun 22, 2007 12:16 pm

Some teton bouldering shots...

Post by **Buster** » Fri Jun 22, 2007 12:21 pm

Thank you sir, may I have another?