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I have heard a lot of people talking about a draft. I know Bush won't start one because he is too stubbern to back on his word. But somthing will have to be done in the future to get us out of this mess. And lets face it our mlitary is stetched too thin!! I'm worried about what the next pres. will do to get us back on track....... any thoughts??

I think we're already getting back on track. Let's just hope the next president doesn't derail things.

yep, I care about about Kathmandu as much as I care about Mosul. We are not occupying Kathmandu. The people of Mosul have been taking care of their shit before Europeans came to this country.

The fact that we wipe their noses for the next 20 years is not going to do them any good anyway. Everyone has to do for themselves. That is what life is all about.

The much touted fear that if we pull out of Iraq the place collapses is right wing rhetoric. It makes about as much sense as the weapons of mass destruction argument.

L K Day wrote:

caribe wrote: Stop occupying Iraq; it is not really accomplishing anything.

Does this mean you simply don't care what would happen to Iraq as a result of a precipitous withdrawal of U.S. forces?

Danny,

In the world I see - you are stalking elk through the damp canyon forests around the ruins of Rockefeller Center. You'll wear leather clothes that will last you the rest of your life. You'll climb the wrist-thick kudzu vines that wrap the Sears Tower. And when you look down, you'll see tiny figures pounding corn, laying strips of venison on the empty car pool lane of some abandoned superhighway.


you know movies quotes they are always relevant to everything.

Caribe said:

"The much touted fear that if we pull out of Iraq the place collapses is right wing rhetoric."

And that's the basic disagreement. I think there's much evidence that the Iraqis need us right now, and that the place would indeed collapse into all-out secterian violence and chaos without our presense. I don't know where you get the notion that the Iraqis would be just fine without us there. It's simply wishful thinking.

Yes, the sectarian violence was always present. This is what Saddam's administration was dealing with. They were largely secular and were embattled in the mire of sectarian violence. We inherited their problems. Your enemy's enemy is not always your friend. Whenever we leave they are going to be dealing with social upheaval until people get tired of war. Compared to the slaughter house, the hundreds of thousands that died because we moved in, the blood that remains to be spilled will probably look like a used tampon.

Everyone has to do for themselves. We could use the they-need-us argument to justify the invasion of many places the world over. Let's not.