Muir Valley Concerns

Post by KD » Tue Mar 27, 2007 12:33 pm

The only person on this thread who is not retarted is weber ... and kd.

Post by KD » Tue Mar 27, 2007 12:35 pm

dogs should be required to keep their retards on leashes and make them carry little poop bags

Post by **dmw** » Tue Mar 27, 2007 1:57 pm

can we stop calling each other retards? just a thought....

Post by **Toad** » Tue Mar 27, 2007 3:11 pm

But, I don't feel retarded.

Post by **heidiramma** » Tue Mar 27, 2007 3:43 pm

What are the odds that climbers with ill trained dogs (or children) spend a decent amount of time training to climb? Spend some time training your dog and maybe there wouldn't be a problem.

well said man. people need to be responsible for both themselves - climbing safely/cleanly - and for the things/dogs/ideas they bring along.

Post by KD » Tue Mar 27, 2007 5:29 pm

dmw wrote:can we stop calling each other retards? just a thought....

sorry - i mean't slowed or obtuse - possibly challenged. esp saxman. now where's those poop bags?

Post by **Zspider** » Tue Mar 27, 2007 6:28 pm

Wes wrote:

So, when you all decide that the crags are no place for dogs, I hope you are ready to start taking care of the place yourselves, as I would rather just take them out for a few hours of hiking, and do other stuff with my life at that point.

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Oh yeah. The crags would crumble to the ground without people dragging their mutts out there.

ZSpiddy

Post by **Zspider** » Tue Mar 27, 2007 6:37 pm

Torrent wrote:

The point is: when we put signs saying "No Dogs" people ignored it. When we put out the sign: "No Climbing" people adhered to it.

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Ah! That is a damn good question.

ZSpiddy

Post by **dmw** » Tue Mar 27, 2007 7:15 pm

what was the question again?

Post by **mcrib** » Tue Mar 27, 2007 7:31 pm

Rhunt Porter bolted all of those routes he established with two dogs at his side so I don't know how you can say the idea of a crag dog is a new trend. As usual Zspider doesn't even deserve a reply. It is time for people who hate dogs to have their bianual animal abuse seminar. I don't go to crags where dogs aren't allowed and I don't go to crags with lesh laws becuase my dogs would just bark all day. If that seems irrational pm we can meet and we can kick each other.