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Yeah, I've met a lot of climbers from all over the country, and everyone of them would never think of stealing from another climber... theres something about climbers helping other climbers...lost gear is usually found and returned by the individuals who found it

Miguels has always been a great place and never really had theft problems before (although the red has) but i think its really messed up that someone would try to steal from tents at miguels and then tell miguel that they found it in the forest. Theres something wrong with the climbers who tried this... they got some weird shit goin on in their heads.Despite this incident, i will always see climbers as good trustworthy people and wont start to take precautions to protect my gear, especially at miguels!

OK - full story from the horses mouth....

http://wrfj.blogspot.com

a more complete and detailed account of events. Hope this clears things up -

there was no draws or grigri, only two carabiners and a atc-type belay device.
or that's all we found.

thanks aaron - will correct
since you are the ones that found it - you would know

yes we would.

"We haven't found the Canadians two carabiners and a ATC-type belay device yet as they may have dumped those in another place."
(from Joe's report)


Maybe I'm misreading this, but it sounds as though you haven't found them yet...please elaborate.

the thieves stole them, that's my assumption.

aaron wrote:there was no draws or grigri, only two carabiners and a atc-type belay device.
or that's all we found.

but you said a few post ago that you did find them...

found as in on the table on monday morning. we haven't refound them or the petzl headlamp.