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Posted: Tue Apr 20, 2004 1:29 pm
by weber
Canyoneering...or is it caving...or what at Muir Valley???

A tale: While scouting for new routes, Jared Hancock and Karla Caradang recently discovered a cave in the Valley with bear prints and skat nearby. (We understand they do range through the area, but don't stick around.) Like most RRG caves, this one is not long --only about 35 feet deep -- but is unusual inasmuch as it has a very tall ceiling -- about 75 feet high. The entrance is only about 10 feet high by 6 feet wide. Inside the cave is a trickling waterfall, and about 15 feet away is a beautiful dry maybe-climbable dihedral (sport.)

Jared has marked this dihedral as a project and will be bolting it soon. A 70 foot climb inside a cave!!

The most curious feature can be seen when you lean into the dihedral wall. Near the top of the 75 foot ceiling is a faint glow of light, coming in from god knows where above.

With Jared's blessing, I grabbed a rope and some gear and headed up to the top to see if I could find the opening where the light was coming in. After an hour of scrambling and bushwhacking through the Great Eastern Kentucky Rhododendron Jungle, I found a tiny dark hole and yelled through it. Sure, enough they could hear me in the cave. The hole was barely big enough to wiggle through. But, not knowing if it squeezed down more, I continued to look for another opening. After rapping down a big dihedral about 12 feet to a ledge, I found another opening, not much bigger but looking a little less gloomy.

Although, they could hear me yell through the opening, everything I threw down, didn't drop to the cave floor -- including the rope. We guessed that the 60 meter rope was long enough and was just getting hung up in the upper caverns.

So, I anchored the rope and lowered down into the hole with only one prusik rope if I had to retreat up. I've never liked the idea of caving, but this was too cool to pass up. The cavern snaked down through the rock and opened up instead of closing down. In a few minutes I was hanging above the waterfall looking down into the cave.

Unfortunately, the only way the rope wanted to go was right down the waterfall. After a quick, wet canyoneering type descent, the rope and I dried off quickly in the mid-eighties breezy air.

Well that was a first for me. And, to make it even better, Karla, who is documenting the route setting in the Valley, credited me with an "FD" -- first descent.
:wink:

We are keeping our fingers crossed that Jared will find this cave dihedral to be a climbable route.

Rick

Posted: Tue Apr 20, 2004 1:44 pm
by Andrew
Sounds amazing. You don't get 70 foot caver routes to often. Hopefully it stay dry enough to climb.

Posted: Tue Apr 20, 2004 4:13 pm
by dhoyne
Wow, that sounds like fun, Rick!!!

Posted: Tue Apr 20, 2004 4:15 pm
by squeezindlemmon
Yeah, that was QUITE the adventure, Rick. We thought for a second that a rescue had to be initiated.

I suggested to Jared to call the cave "Lion's Den" bec on the cliff-face above the cave opening, there is a distinct form that looks like a lion's head with a tree growing on top of the nose/snout.

The dihedral definitely looks climbable but we are also keeping our fingers crossed for the drenched flake to be dry! :D

Posted: Tue Apr 27, 2004 5:17 pm
by skydivemi
geezer,

Geezer,
What is this Muir Valley re-direct. The Web-site is Motor Vehilc Xpert. Is this correct?

Posted: Wed Apr 28, 2004 3:45 am
by pianomahnn
Working fine for me.

Your internet must be borked.

Posted: Wed Apr 28, 2004 4:44 am
by Danny
skydivemi wrote:geezer,

Geezer,
What is this Muir Valley re-direct. The Web-site is Motor Vehilc Xpert. Is this correct?
Some of the links in the thread have a period after the url. Get rid of the period to avoid the Motor Xpert site.

Posted: Wed Apr 28, 2004 11:34 am
by weber
We have received reports from several persons, like skydivemi, that the
Muir Valley website is not working correctly inasmuch as it comes up as
a totally unrelated site.

We discovered that this happens when a person uses a very old web
browser to try to access www.muirvalley.com We have this thing called
virtual hosting (I think) on our web server. And this is what has been
causing the problem. Anyhow, we believe this problem is now fixed.

If anyone is having problems accessing www.muirvalley.com and more
specifically the legal release form section of this website, please
contact me directly at weber@accenttech.com and I'll try to fix things.

@#$%^&* computers... can't live with 'em and can't live without em!

Rick

Posted: Thu May 06, 2004 1:51 am
by weber
Muir Valley Update - May 4, 2004:

Several weeks have passed since the announcment the opening of Muir Valley to climbing. We were pleased to see an orderly, organized effort take shape to set new routes -- much to the credit of Tim Powers, Jared Hancock, Karla Carandang, Mike, JJ, Barry, Dave, and many others too numerous to list. These folks have put forth a lot of thoughtful, hard work to establish a bunch of first class routes.

Liz and I are immensely enjoying climbing this fresh rock and watching the routes being put up. And, it ain't being done totally by male muscle. Photos will be posted soon of petite Karla wrestling a monster Bosch Annihilator hammer drill on her recent 5.10d FA she bolted top to bottom.

There now exist about fifty sport and trad routes in the Valley -- several of which are classic quality -- with ratings from 5.6 to 5.13a. All responsible, experienced rock climbers are welcome. Prior to your visit, please go to our website: www.muirvalley.com to fill out an on-line release form.

If you wish to set up a route, you must first PM me for instructions. Unauthorized bolting is strictly prohibited in Muir.

We will be happy to answer any and all emails or PMs with questions you may have.

Liz and Rick Weber

Posted: Thu May 06, 2004 11:17 pm
by J-Rock
geezer wrote:And, it ain't being done totally by male muscle. Photos will be posted soon of petite Karla wrestling a monster Bosch Annihilator hammer drill on her recent 5.10 FA she bolted top to bottom.
http://www.redriverclimbing.com/album_p ... pic_id=697

http://www.redriverclimbing.com/album_p ... pic_id=698