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Sure Spragwa, but the big difference is that when women use men, the men usually don't mind.

where did i say i didn't like sex? i'm a normal red blooded woman, but i would still rather be with someone who is interested in me for more than just sex.

Boy did THIS topic get hijacked and, by what else, sex, sexual attraction and women pissing on men because men find them attractive while climbing...oh, wait, women pissing on men is a different forum entirely.

It's very interesting to see how a discussion that begins with slander ends with women admitting they actually LIKE sex.

do the women you go out with not like sex? just because some of us have other interests besides sex means we don't like it? i like other things than climbing does that mean i really don't like that either?

i can't imagine someone not liking sex...

I dont understand why men always get the bad rap for just wanting sex. maybe it is because of the way we act sometimes but when it comes right down to it, I think most guys want the same as woman. I know everyone at miguels thinks that all i think about is woman, but thats not true at all. I dont know why I am responding to this thread, maybe i am because i feel that all the ladies should know that im not a player. you know what, fuck all this just go and climb a rock.

MiaRock wrote:where did i say i didn't like sex? i'm a normal red blooded woman, but i would still rather be with someone who is interested in me for more than just sex.

What I'm saying is that most women with your attitude usually can't see past the sexual interest to any other interest a man might have in them. Many women like you (note how I try to keep this a little ambiguous so it may or may not pertain directly to you) want men to behave like they're disinterested until she is ready for sex. This is why so many women that want "more than just sex" end up as "fag hags" or with assholes. Desire for your company looks a lot like desire for your booty, whether you like to admit it or not. Often an interest in having deep, meaningful conversations with you is intricately intwined with an interest in making you scream in delight with your legs up in the air and your toes all curled up. But many women that want "more than just sex" can't see that in addition to wanting to bang you like a cheap cap gun, a man might also like to spend a LOT of time with you not banging. Or between banging, however you'd like to picture it.

That's all I'm saying.

Why are you so defensive, Mia? Do you really hate sex so much?

dipsi wrote:.... gonna climb in England!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!Wheeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!

While I could comment on gossip and sex ...

I don't mean to, er, rain on your parade (so to speak), "climbing in England" can be a bit frustrating. Lots of standing around in a cold drizzle hoping that it clears up, then heading to the local cafe and waiting for it to clear up over tea and scones, then ending up in the pub, raising pints to the hope that it's nicer tomorrow. (Keep in mind that in English weather forecasts "partly cloudy" can include light rain) Still, all that "other" (non-climbing) stuff can be a lot of fun. (Come to think of it, that "other stuff" can involve a fair bit of gossip and sex....)

Alan Evil wrote:...bang you like a cheap cap gun...

THAT'S funny.

Alan Evil, what you are describing is a relationship, i am talking more of about when you meet someone in the beginning and clearly they have no interest in ever having meaningful conversations.