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2017 Rocktoberfest shirt is already done! Just waiting for more sponsors to hop on board...

I want one

727foxtree wrote:2017 Rocktoberfest shirt is already done! Just waiting for more sponsors to hop on board...

Excellent idea! Just color in that car to make it a brighter color.

I have AWD and regularly go up and down the hill. Going down isn't bad because you can go slow, but going up is getting a little sketchy because you need to drive faster and one of the holes has become so big that it will swallow a smaller sport utility. I haven't seen it this bad in years. On the plus side, there is plenty of room to park at the bottom.

one option i think should be kept in mind is using a larger grade of gravel to fill the holes. a few years ago people thought digging out the rocks buried in the sore heel hill would smooth it out but i think of these as anchoring the matrix. if rocks are sufficiently massive to drive over but not get kicked up it may stabilize?

To add to what was said about the landowners towing. The owner of that grazing land and gates is Gary King last I knew. And he owns the towing company for that part of the county. Nice guy but he towed a buddy's car from what is now drive-by lot. Before it was. If he decides he doesn't like it, he doesn't have to call for trucks.
Maybe a better parking organization in that top lot would help. The perimeter half circle doesn't allow as much as -
Car. Car. Car
Car Car. Car
Car. Car. Car
Car Car. Car. Along that line anyways. The fan parking limits all that space. Carpooling and not bringing the Colorado tents, (sprinters) would help some

anticlmber wrote: Along that line anyways. The fan parking limits all that space. Carpooling and not bringing the Colorado tents, (sprinters) would help some

Ooo, I know! Let's institute a parking fee!

clif wrote:one option i think should be kept in mind is using a larger grade of gravel to fill the holes. a few years ago people thought digging out the rocks buried in the sore heel hill would smooth it out but i think of these as anchoring the matrix. if rocks are sufficiently massive to drive over but not get kicked up it may stabilize?

I wonder if a combined application of geotextiles and large rocks would help. Spaas Creek was given that treatment probably twenty years ago now and the majority of that three mile section of heavily abused road has stayed fairly solid. The steep parts are the worst, but I don't know if they got the same treatment nor how much intentional excavation has been done to make it a more enjoyable mud run.

BostonHammock wrote:
Ooo, I know! Let's institute a parking fee!

Or a stupid tax.

Doesn't seem like there are many good options. In my opinion you either acquire the capital to purchase and maintain a large lot up top, or you continue to throw money into the pit that is continual road maintenance on that steep section for the foreseeable future.

I can only imagine that things are only going to deteriorate more quickly and to a worse extent as climbing becomes more popular and more people make the transition to the outdoors.

People parking up top contributes to the problem too - when we went to drive out on Sunday there was a clusterfuck of people and dogs walking out on the road up, so I had to cut more speed than I would have liked to for their sake.