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Re: Financial Support for Climbing from Climbers: The Proble

Posted: Mon Nov 29, 2010 2:21 am
by captain static
Clevis Hitch wrote:What really needs to happen is finish the stalled LAC process and get the N.F. and the CC on the same page
The LAC process is not stalled. Just slow in moving. A most significant input from LAC coming from the locals was the FS doesn't need more rules, they just need to enforce the existing rules. That is why there has been stepped up enforcement on camping too close to trails & alcohol, etc. Steps towards a Climbing Management Plan are slowly proceeding as are steps towards a Camping Management Plan. Financial resources to implement either of these plans will be a challenge. As far as the Climbing Management Plan here is the outline. Once a draft CMP is developed, it will be presented at a Coalition meeting for input before final submittal to the USFS for review and public input.
Red River Gorge Draft Climbing Management Plan and Environmental Assessment Outline wrote: Part I – Climbing Management Plan
1.0 Introduction
2.0 Climbing Management Plan
2.1 Purpose and Need
2.2 Regulatory Authority, Policy, & Guidance
2.2.1 Land and Resource Management Plan for the Daniel Boone National Forest
2.2.2 Limits of Acceptable Change
2.3 Goals and Objectives
2.4 Red River Gorge Climbing History
2.5 Natural and Biological Resources
2.6 Cultural Resources
2.7 Limits of Acceptable Change and Opportunity Zones
2.8 Inventory and Assessment of Existing Climbing Areas
2.8.1 Natural and Biological Resources
2.8.2 Cultural Resources
2.8.3 Limits of Acceptable Change and Resource Standards
2.8.4 Limits of Acceptable Change and Social Standards
2.9 Inventory and Assessment of Trail Access to Existing Climbing Areas
2.9.1 System Trails
2.9.2 User-Created Trails
2.10 Limits of Acceptable Change and Management Actions
2.10.1 Climbing Areas & Climbsites
2.10.2 System Trails & User Trails
2.11 Climbing Development Guidelines and Procedures
2.12 Access Trail Development Guidelines and Procedures
2.13 Public Participation
3.0 CMP Implementation and Monitoring
3.1 Partnerships
3.2 User Education
3.3 Climbing Area and Access Trail Maintenance
3.4 Climbing and Access Trail Development
3.5 Commercial Guiding / Group Use
3.6 Monitoring of Resource and Social Indicators

Part II - Environmental Assessment
1.0 Introduction
2.0 Affected Environment
2.1 Natural and Biological Resources
2.2 Cultural Resources
2.3 Visitor Use and Experience
3.0 Management Issues
4.0 Alternatives
4.1 Alternative A – No Action (Management without CMP)
4.2 Alternative B – CMP with No New Climbing Areas
4.3 Alternative C – CMP with New Climbing Areas (Preferred Alternative)
5.0 Environmental Consequences
5.1 Alternative A – No Action (Management without CMP)
5.2 Alternative B – CMP with No New Climbing Areas
5.3 Alternative C – CMP with New Climbing Areas (Preferred Alternative)

Part III – Preparers, References, & Appendices

Re: Financial Support for Climbing from Climbers: The Proble

Posted: Mon Nov 29, 2010 2:27 am
by dustonian
Glad to hear this is still creeping forward, Bill...pretty exciting news.

Re: Financial Support for Climbing from Climbers: The Proble

Posted: Mon Nov 29, 2010 2:36 am
by pigsteak
dustonian wrote:Glad to hear this is still creeping forward, Bill...pretty exciting news.

if you like watching paint dry....

Re: Financial Support for Climbing from Climbers: The Proble

Posted: Mon Nov 29, 2010 2:42 am
by dustonian
Yeah, I like watching water boil & bacteria grow, too...lab research is a real thrillfest that way sometimes! This is also why I enjoy using glue-ins so much as well.

Re: Financial Support for Climbing from Climbers: The Proble

Posted: Mon Nov 29, 2010 12:10 pm
by mike_a_lafontaine
dustonian wrote:Yeah, I like watching water boil & bacteria grow, too...lab research is a real thrillfest that way sometimes! This is also why I enjoy using glue-ins so much as well.
Watching bacteria grow is horrible. It means my tissue cultures are fucked.

Re: Financial Support for Climbing from Climbers: The Proble

Posted: Mon Nov 29, 2010 12:52 pm
by DriskellHR
I dont think most folks here realize how much time Captian static has put into this. He has a full time job, family, and a life. yet he seems to put countless hours into making this happen. Dispite the nay sayer's and negitive nancy's.

Thanks Bill, My hats off brother.