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Chester;
Yes, today is in fact a full moon. As a matter of fact, there will be a lunar eclipse tonight. Don't forget to wear your welding goggles!
M.
(Isn't anybody else's troll alarm ringing??)

Yeah, I have only met BBerlier and Gretchen once and I can definitely tell you he does NOT have any ego problems. Quite the opposite in fact.

Mj

I gotta chime in on that one too.
B-Berlier is about the most humble person I've met for how damn strong he is.

Yep, another "me too" post. I've only met him once or twice, but it's obvious immediately that bberlier is very unassuming for all his badness. Super cool guy, and he doesn't blow his wad on this BBS either. 88keys you are off base here.

Gretchen, you go, girl!

So the reality of this 88, is that in order for BBerlier to take such a stand, means that he reallllly has had to be offended by your statement. That's like tell Bryan that for the past 14 years that all he has been doing and accomplishing on the rock is nothing but posing!

From where I stand and the catches that I have had to make, I know that He certainly is no poser!

I loathe OW (only done up to 10's) and hope to only climb that style if I go to the Valley again ,also don't like slab much anymore either but I have done some 12s but since I choose not to climb that style either that makes me 5.0 I guess. Sweet!

I might be one of the better 5.0 climbers out there!

I tried to figure this out last night because I think I may be sounding kind of strange with my original post.........

I guess, in my head, the only difference between face and crack climbing is the way you grab the holds and position your body. Therefore I feel like it's one in the same. If you're falling on a 5.10 offwidth then you're not a 5.12 climber. Other way around, if you're a 5.12 crack climber falling on a 5.10 crimp route then you're not a 5.12 climber.

But it sounds like, to most people, that in their heads their is a clear distinction between the two types of climbing. I guess it's the type of protection used that makes people think crack climbing is so different from face climbing that they should be treated as two separate sports? After a while though placing a cam becomes just as easy as clipping a bolt so I just don't see the reasoning.

I have seen beginning trad leaders try to figure out what size cam/stopper/nalgene bottle that needs to go in a certain place and that to me is what makes all the difference in the world. Well, that and I don't have to woller my whole ass inside a crimp.

Mj

OK, first, thanks for all the support!
Second, I was offended by 88keys original post of basically slamming sport climbing. I didn't take it personally, but rather on the whole climbing community. Its these damn stereotypes that people use to further divide our cause for access to climbing.
Third, SCIN, my take on the way we rate climbing is this. One person may be able to run one mile faster than everybody else, but in a marathon that person could come in last. He would still be considered a fast runner. If he dedicated just as much time to marathons as he did running a mile he could become equally dominant. It definitely comes down to personal preferences on how much time we put to each discipline.
Fourth, I will freely discuss my ego on this board. Why do you feel you need to take it to PMs?

Bryan, good analogy but I think the differences between a sprinter and a marathon runner would be justified if we were comparing bouldering to route climbing. If your runner analogy holds true then you would have to seperate long sport routes from short sport routes, etc.