Your dream....

[JRTrash]

some out there try to disguise their ability behind a number

This reminds me of the whole, 'can you climb a 5.x or are you a 5.x climber' discussion. I'm assuming one's dream grade does not mean grade at which you are a solid well rounded climber, but
the grade of your hardest sends in the style you enjoy most. I don't see a whole lot of folks aspiring to climb 5.13 trad but it would be cool if they did.. 8)

I think two of the best climbing videos I have ever seen are 1) Katie Brown climbing Belly Full of Bad Berries and 2) Kris Hampton climbing Hidden Dragon. I want to climb both of these one day; both videos help me want to climb harder trad in a area where its all too easy to just keep clipping bolts.

[512OW]

JRTrash.... I got the beta for ya.

Myke Dronez... exactly. I'll NEVER be a solid 5.14 climber, but onsighting 5.13 could very well happen within the year. If I use the popular "top redpoint grade should be 4 letter grades above your top onsight grade", then 14a becomes realistic as a potential project. Now I just have to learn to project....

[Lateralus]

climbing dreams?
how about a 1 year climbing trip-- let the numbers fall where they may

[heidiramma]

Another great view to have Lateralus, I like that one

[TradMike]

not so much a grade but a climb

[hamsco]

This poll is not a valid sampling of normal Red climbers,(only of the mutants that are previously mentioned).

You guys are in the clouds!!! Most people couldn't send a 5.10 unless they work hard for it. After seventeen years of climbing I have only sent a couple of 11s.
There have been lots of setbacks along the way, but I still Love to climb.

the fact that there is only 2 votes for 5.11 shows that the people on this forum are sick hard climbers.

I bow down to you all

[Yasmeen]

12a used to be my dream grade up until a few years ago. I voted for 13a because I figure that'll be a dream grade for a good long time. It would be cool to get there, but with the patience I have for "training," I'm not holding my breath.

[bcombs]

I voted for 13a as well. There are two things I know for sure. 1) Genetics are against me 2nd) Based on the time to 12a I'm going to say spring 2012 3rdly) Look, it's French for stop. Pause. 4thly) I need to go train.

[JR]

I bet you make it to 13a Yasmeen! But you might have to start training with motivated climbers though.

[Lander]

When I was climbing 5.8s, 10a was the dream.When I was doing tens, 5.11 seemed doable but not twelves. Eventually, with a lot of work, I broke into the twelve grade. It was a matter of adjusting expectations. Of course, when I started out their weren't nearly as many harder climbs to do or hard climbers setting an example.

It's all a matter of perspective. The standards changed as well.I reached my peak at 12c. Then, for various reasons, I climbed a lot less for the next few years, then not at all for two years. Now I'm back into it but the fitness isn't what it used to be. Tens and easy elevens are about all I can reasonably hope to do at the moment. So I thought about choosing the 12a option but then I thought 'I've already done that'. So even though it's a total dream and completely unrealistic, I had to say 13a.

Another thing about the last option.

It's always bugged me how some people say they just climb for 'fun' or disparage number chasing or working routes because that's not climbing for 'fun'.It's like how do they know? I mean, trying to do something that's really hard for you, that you have to work at and often repeatedly fail on, can be an exhilerating experience when you finally meet your goal. But even short of that, the process itself can be fulfilling. It's all about learning and maybe becoming a better climber along the way. I think that makes it more than fun. Just had to get that off my chest. Carry on.