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Posted: Fri Aug 18, 2006 3:47 pm
by charlie
I guess it all boils down to why you climb. Personally, I'm not looking for credit and although it may disappoint some people, I'm sure as shit not trying to impress anyone. This is one of the many things I feel me and Piggie have in common.
Who's the FA? Who freaking cares? I'm more impressed with who found the line and equipped the route. It's more so I know who to thank for the work and vision than anything else.
It's rockclimbing, not a winning lottery ticket or a Nobel prize.
Posted: Fri Aug 18, 2006 3:48 pm
by Meadows
charlie wrote: Because a clean toprope, Beta Flash toprope, Onsight Toprope is a freaking
TOPROPE!
It don't count.
Once Mike Jones! starts hanging his own ropes, he might understand it.
Posted: Fri Aug 18, 2006 3:57 pm
by Yasmeen
LOL
Tonight, I'm going to get a sex change operation between so I can understand the difference between men and women. I just don't feel like I can really get it unless I do. Speaking of, can I borrow your pamphlet, Meadows?
Posted: Fri Aug 18, 2006 3:58 pm
by Meadows
I can help you out, Yas. You're clearly a man.
Posted: Fri Aug 18, 2006 3:58 pm
by pigsteak
man, merrick and charlie, I love you guys.
maybe guidebooks at sport areas should delete all lists of FA, and note the equipper and anything funny or noteworthy about the rap bolting experience or how the route got it's name.
"Pigsteak would like to thank: his Mom, God, Snoop Dogg, and Bill Clinton for help on the FA"
..I used to love looking at FA's from the early years of climbing, and marvel at the nads those dudes had. now, it seems almost silly.
that being said, i'll continue listing anyone i damn well please on the FA list. take it with a grain of salt. more than likely, I sent the line on TR, and didn' have the guts to lead it.
in fact, on one of my lines, I have listed two guys for wierd reasons. One put in anchors and never even got on the route. The other climbed the first 15 feet of the line, and never even touched the final 50 feet. But it was about the experience, and thanking them for helping the line evolve.
Posted: Fri Aug 18, 2006 3:59 pm
by Meadows
pigsteak, You should list Yas and Wes for the superb beta on Demise ... especially since Wes knocked it down a letter grade.
Posted: Fri Aug 18, 2006 4:01 pm
by merrick
But it was about the experience, and thanking them for helping the line evolve.
word. in that sense it is closer to the original idea of fa's.
Posted: Fri Aug 18, 2006 4:01 pm
by pigsteak
exactly!!!! when it gets an FA, I'll do just that, but only IF I use the beta.
Posted: Fri Aug 18, 2006 4:02 pm
by Yasmeen
Meadows, shit. I was afraid of that. I kept comparing what I saw in the mirror with what I saw in the pamphlet, but was reluctant to admit the truth...
pigsteak, can I be listed for "helping Lobsterclaw evolve" if I chip a nice crimp up there at the top?
Posted: Fri Aug 18, 2006 4:04 pm
by Meadows
Yasmeen, Does Mike Jones! know the truth?