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Posted: Mon Jan 24, 2005 2:33 pm
by Meadows
pigsteak wrote: you could be right on the actual phases of the program..I was going from memory...it is a tough 20 minutes, and i have ran 43 miles in one stint, so pigsteak knows :wink:
Wow, were you bored out of your mind to run that long or were you just training for an Ultra?

Posted: Mon Jan 24, 2005 2:39 pm
by Meadows
Artsay wrote: Meadows - What pigsteak said was a good description of the B4L aerobic workout and I agree that that the warm up and cool down probably aren't enough.
If I try it, I should add extra warm-up time. Right now all I'm doing for speed training which would almost apply is running 4 miles as fast as I can.
Artsay wrote: Like any good habit, though, this was easy to quit so now I've regressed to the "PT diet"; Part of the time I'm good and part of the time I'm bad. 8)
Would life be interesting if we were good all the time?
Artsay wrote: B4L is a great read and the fundamentals are like good health 101. It's not really intended for people like you (you're like the "after photos" of the people in the book) but I'd recommend it for anyone to read. It's extemely inspiring and there's a lot to be learned from it.
I'm sure it helps just for maintenance. Does the program restrict the diet as well until you meet the ultimate goal?

Posted: Mon Jan 24, 2005 2:51 pm
by Artsay
marathonmedic wrote:Artsay, what's the deal with Schwarbien Principle? Sounds curious.
It's a book about the role of food with generetive diseases and the content is truly amazing. It outlines the foods that can kick you into Type 2 Diabetes, heart attackes, etc., and tells many detailed accounts of individuals and their story to better health. It's promoted as a weight loss book but I took from it a whole lot more. The book promotes eating fat and protein over a high, starchy carb diet (i.e. pasta, potatoes) in a healthy way, unlike Atkins, and is overall a very scientific book the way it breaks down and describes insulin levels in the body. I received it as a gift from Jeff for turning him onto B4L. I highly recommend it!

Posted: Mon Jan 24, 2005 3:01 pm
by Artsay
Meadows wrote:I'm sure it helps just for maintenance. Does the program restrict the diet as well until you meet the ultimate goal?
It restricts it by making you eat more! Six meals a day! Most people have a hard time eating as much as the program requires but, if you're working out as hard as it outlines, you really need the calories/nutrition. And you're not suppose to quit when you meet your goal weight. It's body for life and the program teaches a way of living.

The program alternates weight lifting with aerobic exercise for six days and then you get a free day. Anything goes on your free day....chocolate, pizza, etc. What ends up happening, though, is you feel so good on your free day and then when you load up on crap you feel really bad. So you don't end up indulging as much on free days as you think you would.

You should get the book, Meadows. You can find it cheap online and you'll definitely get something from it. It's a fun read, I thought. Some stories are so inspiring they made me cry....but I'm a wuss like that.

Posted: Mon Jan 24, 2005 3:09 pm
by Meadows
I'm going to Half.com to look it up. It actually sounds like my diet already - I eat that often, but usually healthy stuff. Thanks for the advice, Artsay!

Posted: Mon Jan 24, 2005 3:18 pm
by Artsay
If you're healthy and athletic already it'll be a really easy transition for you. The workout will kick your ass, though! It is HARD! The one big difference you'll see with the diet is incorportating a protein into each of your six meals a day. That can take more time and creativity than simply eating an apple. I ate a lot of Genisoy bars for snacks (something like 14G of protein/bar).

Oh yea, the B4L is an 8 week challenge and if you complete the challenge and send in before and after pictures, Bill Phillips will send you a $250 check. No lie!