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Posted: Wed Apr 16, 2003 2:03 pm
by Rain Man
I'm just sayin'....when James missed that deadpoint on Infectious you and he could have played cards almost.
...and I'm 50 lbs heavier than James.
It would be like a counterweight on an elevator..."Going up!"
I'm psyched about trying out the new gear, though, so I guess we'll find out soon enough.
Posted: Wed Apr 16, 2003 2:40 pm
by SikMonkey
Oh yeah, I know what you mean. I didn't even jump when he fell either. I just tried to duck to the side to avoid wearing him as a hat.
Mj
Posted: Wed Apr 16, 2003 6:34 pm
by Johnny
I like the "would you tell a good friend" standard Ray. That makes good sense.
Posted: Wed Apr 16, 2003 6:36 pm
by Wes
Maybe just add a "beta" section that could be turned on/off. Then you could add things like "watch out on the third clip" or "hang a long draw from the forth bolt", as well as "look of hidden undercling at the crux".
Wes
Posted: Sun Jun 08, 2003 8:21 pm
by Wicked Tribe
Climbing is inherently dangerous. If you get killed it's not because anyone forced you to climb any particular route but because you chose to get on it. If you make a poor judgement (JUDGEMENT) then that's just natural selection hard at work. Sounds harsh I know, but sometimes in climbing you need to make the RIGHT decision over the DEAD decision and if you never get to make those decisions early on when it may not be fatal but only harmful then when it really counts you'll be lacking crucial climbing skills. We all have to learn for ourselves what is more dangerous and what is less dangerous. No one can do that for you.
Posted: Tue Jun 10, 2003 6:53 pm
by tomdarch
I'm all for saftey beta! I don't sport climb to risk my health/life, I sport climb for fun. Wierd/inobvious fall potential takes the fun out of things! A toggleable Beta section in the guidebook/spray section sounds like a great idea.
Also, I want to agree with the person who commented on the bolting style for a lot of the easier climbs. Ideally the draw should be around your face or chest when you've got "the clipping hold." Part of the issue is to teach new climbers to look for a hold above the bolt and to not pull two arms lengths of rope out at ever clip.
(On the other hand, on a lot of the easier climbs there are several possible candidates for "the clipping hold." I know! We need to paint a big red circle around "the clipping hold" on easier routes! And add an "R" or "L" for which hand to put on it when clipping! It's the only way to be safe!
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