Posted: Mon Mar 27, 2006 7:37 pm
Rhunt, does include a cat service too when I climb at Torrent?
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Posted: Mon Mar 27, 2006 7:51 pm
call it "scratch n sniff" brah....
Posted: Mon Mar 27, 2006 8:11 pm
so it is running about 50-50 on whether dogs need to stay away....this should let us dog owners know we have not kept our pets in line at the crag.
just remember, no one loves your dog as much as you.
no one.
just remember, no one loves your dog as much as you.
no one.
Posted: Mon Mar 27, 2006 9:19 pm
Sandy,
Believe me, I asked them to take care of their dog. But that's not easy to do when you're belaying someone who's on a sketchy trad lead, or if you're leading yourself. Not to mention when you don't know who the heck the dog belongs to.
Another reason to keep them tied up though. A few months ago, I was belaying my partner on Bombs Bursting, and my dog Maya was hanging around the bottom of the climb. My partner knocked a big ol' rock off the top of the climb (the rope knocked it off), and it headed straight for Maya's head. So a 15 pound rock fell 100 feet and missed her noggin by about 2 feet.
Of course she sat there smiling and panting, oblivious (she's a little dense).
Anyway, so I should have had her tied up and out of the way, even though we were the only ones at the cliff that day, and there was no one there to bother, because I should have had her tied up out of harm's way better. Definately my mistake.
Of course, I had a helmet on...too bad they don't make dog helmets.
Believe me, I asked them to take care of their dog. But that's not easy to do when you're belaying someone who's on a sketchy trad lead, or if you're leading yourself. Not to mention when you don't know who the heck the dog belongs to.
Another reason to keep them tied up though. A few months ago, I was belaying my partner on Bombs Bursting, and my dog Maya was hanging around the bottom of the climb. My partner knocked a big ol' rock off the top of the climb (the rope knocked it off), and it headed straight for Maya's head. So a 15 pound rock fell 100 feet and missed her noggin by about 2 feet.
Of course she sat there smiling and panting, oblivious (she's a little dense).
Anyway, so I should have had her tied up and out of the way, even though we were the only ones at the cliff that day, and there was no one there to bother, because I should have had her tied up out of harm's way better. Definately my mistake.
Of course, I had a helmet on...too bad they don't make dog helmets.
Posted: Mon Mar 27, 2006 10:24 pm
My dog comes with me to crags and stays off the leash. Generally, she's a good girl. But she can be irritating, she begs for food and drools. If I'm climbing with someone I haven't met, I generally ask them if she's okay and offer to tie her up if they find her intimidating or bothersome.
I'm not saying she's perfect. She isn't. But she responds well to verbal commands and I address her promptly if she decides not to listen. She doesn't dig and rarely barks.
Her biggest down-fall is an overwhelming desire to play with other dogs. If everyone is comfy with that, I allow her to play. If someone isn't, I make her go lie down. I don't want her ruining someone else's experience.
As for kids, the only serious issue I have had were two occasions. One in which the children were screaming continuously with no parental intervention and another when an older boy walked up to my dog and put his face right inches from hers and started petting her. I calmly asked the parents to watch their child and how he was behaving around my dog. I explained to them that I trust her as much as possible but I cannot totally predict any large animal's behavior. Then I asked my neice to sit next to her and control her head while the child was there.
If you see Dakota and I at the crag and are uncomfortable. Please tell me. I mean it.
I'm not saying she's perfect. She isn't. But she responds well to verbal commands and I address her promptly if she decides not to listen. She doesn't dig and rarely barks.
Her biggest down-fall is an overwhelming desire to play with other dogs. If everyone is comfy with that, I allow her to play. If someone isn't, I make her go lie down. I don't want her ruining someone else's experience.
As for kids, the only serious issue I have had were two occasions. One in which the children were screaming continuously with no parental intervention and another when an older boy walked up to my dog and put his face right inches from hers and started petting her. I calmly asked the parents to watch their child and how he was behaving around my dog. I explained to them that I trust her as much as possible but I cannot totally predict any large animal's behavior. Then I asked my neice to sit next to her and control her head while the child was there.
If you see Dakota and I at the crag and are uncomfortable. Please tell me. I mean it.
Posted: Mon Mar 27, 2006 11:33 pm
I have noticed 2 things that rise up when climbing:2d hand smoke and 1st hand farts. I hate when my belayer does either.tsparks wrote:Dogs aren't the problem, it's the idiots that just let their dogs do whatever they want that get on my nerves.
This poll is ridiculous! I can think of lots of things that bother me more at the cliff than dogs. Am I the only one that hates second-hand smoke when I'm belaying someone?
Posted: Mon Mar 27, 2006 11:36 pm
what a thread. Fuck a bunch of dogs.
Posted: Mon Mar 27, 2006 11:37 pm
Posted: Tue Mar 28, 2006 3:52 am
Dog helmet:
Posted: Tue Mar 28, 2006 10:02 am
The Red is a pretty big place. If one finds the current atmosphere unpleasant for any reason there are other routes. If you can't change the situation by politely asking someone to desist then it is probaly a lost cause.