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Posted: Thu Apr 06, 2006 5:41 pm
by Sunshine
I hear you loud and clear.

Re: Climbers' Code of Ethics

Posted: Fri Apr 07, 2006 4:32 pm
by Cliff Heindel
And, turning a blind eye to aberrant behavior is, in itself, a violation one of the basic tenets of the code. When we witness an act of recklessness or carelessness that is clearly an intentional or unintentional breach of ethics, we have the obligation to bring this to the attention of the guilty person(s).

-Is this a joke?

Posted: Fri Apr 07, 2006 6:35 pm
by captain static
The way I look at it, and BTW, how it is presented in the ethics section of Mountaineering: Freedom of the Hills is the same as if I witnessed an unsafe practice. If I see someone z-clip, backclip, perform an improper belay, or other unsafe practice I will not turn a blind eye but am obligated to bring it to the attention of the individual(s) involved as I certainly don't won't to see someone get hurt. Similarly, if I witness someone acting in a manner that might jeopardize access to a particular area, I am obligated to bring this to the attention of the individual(s) involved in the interest of preserving climbing access.

Re: Climbers' Code of Ethics

Posted: Fri Apr 07, 2006 8:09 pm
by weber
Cliff Heindel wrote:And, turning a blind eye to aberrant behavior is, in itself, a violation one of the basic tenets of the code. When we witness an act of recklessness or carelessness that is clearly an intentional or unintentional breach of ethics, we have the obligation to bring this to the attention of the guilty person(s).

-Is this a joke?
To some, perhaps. Not to me.
captain static wrote:The way I look at it, and BTW, how it is presented in the ethics section of Mountaineering: Freedom of the Hills is the same as if I witnessed an unsafe practice. If I see someone z-clip, backclip, perform an improper belay, or other unsafe practice I will not turn a blind eye but am obligated to bring it to the attention of the individual(s) involved as I certainly don't won't to see someone get hurt. Similarly, if I witness someone acting in a manner that might jeopardize access to a particular area, I am obligated to bring this to the attention of the individual(s) involved in the interest of preserving climbing access.
Well said.

Rick

Posted: Sat Apr 08, 2006 2:02 am
by Cliff Heindel
I love you guys