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I think climbers who are only interested in ticking grades don't usually care about anything other than sending. Once they have sent a route it is done. Finished. No need to go back. I have heard more than one of these people say, "I don't care if they close Military Wall, I have done all those routes." If something is good it is worth doing, eating, reading, listening to....again and again.

Eat, sleep, sex, drink, dream> King Crimson

You two sound like to old men sitting on a porch drinking home made wine, complaining about how you had to walk to school uphill both ways in the snow. You two could do a new movie: Grumpy old men on the rock...

Yeah, I remember when.............wait............ no I don't, I can't remember shit!

Artsay wrote: I bet these same people are the ones who fall on an accurately graded route and say that it's hard for the grade and THAT'S why they fell.

And then there are those who consisently send at a level and just know ...

J-Rock wrote:I just think it's pathetic that so many climbers these days can't even read a topo map. What's up with that? Insidious homogenization is what it is...

There's civilization three miles in every direction. Pick a direction and borrow a phone from the first person you encounter. 411 now offers directions.

Operator: Hello, city and state, please.
Climber: Ummm, Rogers, Kentucky?
Operator: Listing for....?
Climber: Lower Tantroft Hollow, particularly the Netizen Hacktivist route at the Inner Sanctum?

Meadows wrote:

Artsay wrote: I bet these same people are the ones who fall on an accurately graded route and say that it's hard for the grade and THAT'S why they fell.

And then there are those who consisently send at a level and just know ...

And then there are those who consistently send at a level in the Red and just know compared to those who consistently send at a level in a lot of different areas and just know....

squeezindlemmon wrote:Operator: Hello, city and state, please.
Climber: Ummm, Rogers, Kentucky?
Operator: Listing for....?
Climber: Lower Tantroft Hollow, particularly the Netizen Hacktivist route at the Inner Sanctum?

If you're hiking to civilization, I doubt you'd say you're in the Hollow. However, in time, that might be true.

squeezindlemmon wrote:

Meadows wrote:

Artsay wrote: I bet these same people are the ones who fall on an accurately graded route and say that it's hard for the grade and THAT'S why they fell.

And then there are those who consisently send at a level and just know ...

And then there are those who consistently send at a level in the Red and just know compared to those who consistently send at a level in a lot of different areas and just know....

Funny, I don't travel to the New or Red Rocks for Muir Valley.

touche! I was speaking in general.....llr's right, everyone's pms-ing! lighten up, hon!

as far as the topo point, I think it was meant for hikers/climbers who are not hiking towards civilization.