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The cookie cliff is cool....but there are better cracks at the Red. Much better. Everything at the cookie thats decent is super polished....

I'm talking about Top 10 at the Red....if I talk top 10 everywhere, sport climbs wouldn't make it.

At the Red....the two sport climbs in my top 10 are Electric Cowboy and All Things Considered. Dave the Dude is close....

Without sitting down and working it out....some of the cracks are Inhibitor, Hidden Dragon, Jack The Ripper, Roadside Attraction, the Quest, B3, Fibrulator direct.....

Nice list. That's an impressive Red River trad resume. Several of those are on my "to do" list whenever I get back in shape.

Its not a resume exactly...just some of the best I've been on. Harder doesn't always mean better....but you know that.

512OW wrote:The cookie cliff is cool....but there are better cracks at the Red. Much better. Everything at the cookie thats decent is super polished....

I'm talking about Top 10 at the Red....if I talk top 10 everywhere, sport climbs wouldn't make it.

At the Red....the two sport climbs in my top 10 are Electric Cowboy and All Things Considered. Dave the Dude is close....

Without sitting down and working it out....some of the cracks are Inhibitor, Hidden Dragon, Jack The Ripper, Roadside Attraction, the Quest, B3, Fibrulator direct.....

I may be a bitch but you are a moron.

Name a 5.11 finger crack at the red that is better than butterballs or red zinger. You can't because it does not exist. Polished granite? Admit it dumbass you have never even been to the cookie and if you have you prolly fell your way up Outer Limits, felt that it was too polished, retreated to your camp site at lower pines and made some stupid rhyme up about how much better the routes in RRG were.

You're right, I can't name a finger crack at the red better than those two. I can name several 11's that are better though, and you didn't specify that the better routes had to be of the same nature....

And thats two routes....of the others there, alot are medium quality, or little "crack" climbing. Crack a go go and Wheat Thin are two that come to mind as really facey...

Yes...polished granite. Duh. Thats why they were named Butterballs and Butterfingers.


No...Outer Limits was OK....not great...too much of the same move to be considered great in my mind.....and really polished until up higher.

There isn't a route at the Cookie that is as good as The Inhibitor. period. When talking one pitch routes of 5.11....there may not be a route in Yosemite as good as The Inhibitor. None that I know of, anyhow.

Maybe I am a moron....but I'm a helluva lot smarter than you, any way you look at it.

No, you suck.

512OW wrote:You're right, I can't name a finger crack at the red better than those two. I can name several 11's that are better though, and you didn't specify that the better routes had to be of the same nature....

And thats two routes....of the others there, alot are medium quality, or little "crack" climbing. Crack a go go and Wheat Thin are two that come to mind as really facey...

Yes...polished granite. Duh. Thats why they were named Butterballs and Butterfingers.


No...Outer Limits was OK....not great...too much of the same move to be considered great in my mind.....and really polished until up higher.

There isn't a route at the Cookie that is as good as The Inhibitor. period. When talking one pitch routes of 5.11....there may not be a route in Yosemite as good as The Inhibitor. None that I know of, anyhow.

Maybe I am a moron....but I'm a helluva lot smarter than you, any way you look at it.

Fuck you. I am finished with this. You are too stupid to carry on any sort of rational argument/discussion. Wallow in it asswipe!

[sarcasm]You're right... The cracks at the red are the bomb! Fuck, they might be the best anywhere on the planet. How can it get any better than the Inhibitor?[/sarcasm]
(barf)

Buster wrote: Fuck you. I am finished with this. You are too stupid to carry on any sort of rational argument/discussion. Wallow in it asswipe!

[sarcasm]You're right... The cracks at the red are the bomb! Fuck, they might be the best anywhere on the planet. How can it get any better than the Inhibitor?[/sarcasm]
(barf)

Haha....the irony. You get irrational and insulting as you accuse me of it. Nice. Very mature. I applaud you.

Tomorrow at the Motherlode say Hi to the other 34 climbers there for me....

This is awesome. Even stronghandman put up more of a fight than this. You never even made me smile....just roll my eyes at your lame attempt......