On Site?

Post by **rhunt** » Tue Jan 20, 2004 6:12 pm

Horatio Felacio, yes I have on-sighted lots of stuff...you got a point?

Not trying to be an ass here just would like consistancy to defining our beloved climbing terms..I mean without our terms our climbing mean nothing..right?

Post by **rhunt** » Tue Jan 20, 2004 6:13 pm

SCIN wrote:
rhunt wrote:aaron, a belay ledge is the same thing as the womb
So rhunt, I've just onsighted every pitch of Astroman. I am on the last pitch. I start to climb off of the belay ledge then realize I'm gonna need more gear. I downclimb ten feet to get the yellow Aliens I'm gonna need.

I just blew my onsight of the most famous free climb in the world?

Yes by definition...but who cares..it's a personal thing right?

Post by **Horatio Felacio** » Tue Jan 20, 2004 6:14 pm

yeah i know. what do you think about stick clipping, climbing to the first bolt ? would you consider that an onsight?

Post by **Artsay** » Tue Jan 20, 2004 6:15 pm

But rhunt, what about climbing up to the first bolt, clipping, and downclimbing before climbing the entire route. Have you ever claimed an onsight where you've done that?

Post by **rhunt** » Tue Jan 20, 2004 6:16 pm

Horatio Felacio wrote:yeah i know. what do you think about stick clipping, climbing to the first bolt ? would you consider that an onsight?

Stick clipping no..climbing to the first bolt yes

Post by **Artsay** » Tue Jan 20, 2004 6:16 pm

So what's the difference? I just don't get it?

Post by **rhunt** » Tue Jan 20, 2004 6:22 pm

the difference is an on-sight is defined by climbing a route you have never been on and have no info about the route. To me, stick clipping doesn't give me any info(at least not on sport climbs..who stick clips trad routes) but climbing to the first bolt would be your first attempt.

Again..we only get ONE chance to on-sight a route! See it's kind of like an Eminem thing..Brah

Post by **Crankmas** » Tue Jan 20, 2004 6:25 pm

does Black Diamond make a porta womb?

Post by **Horatio Felacio** » Tue Jan 20, 2004 6:34 pm

yes, only one chance...meaning one chance, till you hang or fall. stickclipping is contradicting...sure it doesn't give you any info., but it does save you energy. brah. brah. you know brah. hey...brah. brah! man, if you can climb up to a certain point without falling and for whatever reason decide you need to downclimb, if you have enough energy to downclimb all that, i'd say it reall didn't take a toll on you. what about this: you climb to the last bolt on steelworker, it's covered with poisonous snakes, you downclimb to the first bolt and hang out on those humoungous jugs for several weeks till the snakes go in hibernation, then finish the route. you're saying that would be an onsight right? what if instead the climber sat on the ground 5 feet below instead of on the jugs? anyway, what you're saying is fucking gay brah. brah. brah. brah. brah. hey brahhhhh.. brahhhh...i'm a sheepppppp....brahhhhhhhhhhahhhhahahhh. just remember brah:

Post by **GWG** » Tue Jan 20, 2004 7:07 pm

How is it scored at an "On-sight" competition?

The ones I've scored have been once the climber starts the route, they are scored based on what hold they get to and if there is productive movement off that hold. If the climber goes up, climbs back down to the ground and steps off, they are done. They are scored based on how high they got.

The people I have climbed with in the past have always approached an on-sight as your first attempt. Down climbing to the ground and then starting again constitutes a second go at it. In this, as well as the other terminolgy, we are consistant.

The way I look at it, if someone tells me they on-sighted a climb, I congratulate them. I don't go about questioning them on what they consider an onsight to be. As I've stated before, I climb for myself. It's a personal thing. I'm certainly not trying to impress anyone else.

Actually, that's kind of a humorous thought when I think about it.

GWG