Ambulance at RS sat night.

[tbwilsonky]

and while we're on the subject of safety:

"Always try to use a chalk ball to minimize the danger to yourself and others. It will keep the chalk contained and help minimize the damage to the environment."

- from this uber-informative essay on so-called 'climbing chalk' http://www.wisegeek.com/what-is-climbing-chalk.htm

[Clevis Hitch]

Well, I've refrained from commenting on this up to this point. So here goes.(1) Kudos to the belayer who held on to the last. He could've just let his leader fall and he didn't, he took the hit for the team. So good Job. (2) Kudos to Wolf Co. S.A.R. for showing up in "no mans land". (3) Kudos to Zac for being Zac and doing what he does.

Now to the problem (as I understand it). I would've dragged my broke dick over shards of glass before I had ever let SAR pick my live carcass a 1/2 mile from the road. Maybe Zac convinced the guy that he was worse off than he was and wouldn't let him walk. Hell, maybe he was worse off! If I had been the leader that he didn't let fall, I would've piggy-backed him down to the road and drove him to the hospital myself.
What do you do when you're in Alaska or Patagonia or even Nevada. Butch up bitches!!

[pigsteak]

you don't know the belayer took one for the team..maybe he had a gri gri, freaked out and took his hands off....

[climb2core]

Now to the problem (as I understand it).

From each of these numerous accidents that have graced this forum I have always tried to 1.) Clearly understand how the accident happened 2.) Identify where the breakdown occurred that resulted in an accident 3.) Learn something from it, so I don't end up as a subject of injury discussion on this board.

Does anyone have a reliable description of what happened so I can get to #2 & #3...

[pigsteak]

if one is known, how could you not already have 2 and 3? is really the issue that no one has posted "clearly" how the accident occurred?

[rhunt]

only thing I learn is to stick to the super secret crags and to avoid climbing on the weekends for as long as I can.

[climb2core]

Pigsteak, yes, I do not see an attempt to post a factual account of the accident. Please post if you know, so I can get to #2 and #3.... Thx!

[KD]

It's kind of like one of those logic things isn't it? "I think therefore...."

[toad857]

Pigsteak, yes, I do not see an attempt to post a factual account of the accident. Please post if you know, so I can get to #2 and #3.... Thx!

#1: climber did not leave a note

#2: climber's hand smushed by rock

#3: oh wait, nvm

[climb2core]

#1: climber did not leave a note

#2: climber's hand smushed by rock

#3: oh wait, nvm

Whatever buddy, I am sure that someone on this board has a fairly clear understanding of what transpired. But obviously that is, oh wait, nvm.