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anticlmber wrote:quit using all my green for bullshit reasons

tbwilsonky wrote:first of all, there is no really real human/nature divide. there is no ecosystem that does not include human influence. there is no pristine nature untouched by the 'ravages of man'. in other words, the split between 'us' and 'it' is all in your heads. you can thank the enlightenment for that doozy.

but this is a climbing thread so i won't bore you with a bunch of 'words' from 'books'.

in my mind, the relative impact of climbing is tiny when compared to:
1) the production and distribution of fossil fuels that make getting to the crag possible. think Exxon Valdeze and mountain top removal.
2) the creation of roads that make getting to the crag possible. think about toxic runoff and animal roaming patterns cut in half by escalades.
3) the production of food that make climbing possible. think pesticides and the rapid drainage of aquifers.
4) the production of stealth rubber. because everyone knows it has to be made from baby seals.

i'm not saying we should run naked through the forest with a bolt gun and a flame thrower. hardly. i'm just saying that climbing really is a tiny tiny blip in the 'destroying nature' game.

and so it seems that a simple code of ethics should suffice: please try not to break s#*t.

for more of this 'hogwash' goto: http://bluegrassbouldering.wordpress.co ... my-ethics/

-t

Myke Dronez wrote:I've said it before, I'll say it again- If you really want to save the Earth just kill yourself. Pretty simple actually. Not condoning reckless consumption and waste by any means, but sometimes I feel like I'm choking on a cloud of smug from all these folks who are convinced they're helping out. And word to the above, climbers should be sponsored by Shell and Exxon, not Patagonia.

anticlmber wrote:another reason to bike around town . . . legs like this
thats for you charlie, don, rro, and fuck; the rest of you