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Yasmeen wrote:

gripster wrote:anyone who uses a bowline is just trying to be "different".

Agreed. If you could please comment loudly on my individualism if you ever see me with my bowline (I paint it neon green to contrast with the rest of my rope, so that people will notice that it's not a figure eight), it would help me accomplish this goal of being "different".

you bet, i will make a note of it. all of you noncomformist are the same.

tying laces=sitting
slippers=standing
harder to do both when not quite as flexible now

just wondering, why can't Sax get his shoes on?

THE question is do you wipe standing up or sitting down?

Currently I climb on a bowline in bight. I picked this up from a climber that I bumped into at Military. This is easily done by tying a single bowline and weaving the free line back through the loops of your harness and back through the knot. It ain't coming undone by itself and it is easy to tie and untie. I do not back up this knot with anything. For you fig 8 enthusiasts, if or when you get tired of struggling to untie a fig 8 after a whip . . . just ask me.
http://www.marinews.com/Bowline-in-the-bight-320.php

rustyvasectomy wrote:http://www.rockandice.com/inthemag.php? ... =accidents

"· Rescue teams and climbing schools consistently use the figure-8 for a very logical reason: It’s a safer knot. It stays tied a whole lot better, as well as being slightly stronger."

caribe wrote:Currently I climb on a bowline in bight. I picked this up from a climber that I bumped into at Military. This is easily done by tying a single bowline and weaving the free line back through the loops of your harness and back through the knot. It ain't coming undone by itself and it is easy to tie and untie. I do not back up this knot with anything. For you fig 8 enthusiasts, if or when you get tired of struggling to untie a fig 8 after a whip . . . just ask me.
http://www.marinews.com/Bowline-in-the-bight-320.php

wait a second, that means that you have to step your whole body through the loop of rope or else attach it to your harness with a biner....wierd!

No, that is not what it means. You better stick with the rewoven 8. Or you can think about for a minute.

Savage wrote:

caribe wrote:Currently I climb on a bowline in bight. I picked this up from a climber that I bumped into at Military. This is easily done by tying a single bowline and weaving the free line back through the loops of your harness and back through the knot. It ain't coming undone by itself and it is easy to tie and untie. I do not back up this knot with anything. For you fig 8 enthusiasts, if or when you get tired of struggling to untie a fig 8 after a whip . . . just ask me.
http://www.marinews.com/Bowline-in-the-bight-320.php

wait a second, that means that you have to step your whole body through the loop of rope or else attach it to your harness with a biner....wierd!

Calling it a bowline on a bight is like calling a rewoven figure-8 a figure 8 on a bight. It is only on a bight if you don't thread it through.

caribe wrote:No, that is not what it means. You better stick with the rewoven 8. Or you can think about for a minute.

Easy there, pumpkin....maybe we are not on the same page. The knot you sent the link to shows how to do it on a bight. anything on a bight means you attach with a carabiner. e.g. figure eight on a bight. if you tie a figure eight-follow-through it ends up looking like the exact same knot, but you had to tie it a different way to get it through the harness.

You can tie the "bowline on a bight" into your harness but you dont do it the way your link showed. You do it by tying a regular bowline and then retracing it (much like you do for a figure eight). Voila! it looks the same.

I think I was just confused by how you went about tying in. I took it literally that you tied in the way the link showed. But still, you've been served, enjoy. =) hahah

Saxman wrote:Calling it a bowline on a bight is like calling a rewoven figure-8 a figure 8 on a bight. It is only on a bight if you don't thread it through.

that was a lot more brief of a response. I truely am a nerd. Too bad I already started typing mine when you posted... i could have saved myself some thinking!

A knot in a bight of rope is some place in the middle of a rope where the knot is made. All other knot are made by using an end of the rope. What ever you do make sure your bowline is made with two loops instead of just one, how ever you finish the knot is up to you just make sure it can't untie itself easily and keep an eye on it if you are going to be tied into it for longer than the average sport climb burn...meaning don't use bowline while multipitch trad climbing. The whole reason for the bowline is so you can untie it easily - this will make sense if you are climbing at your limit and thus falling a lot...the 8 become a PITA when you are falling a lot.