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Posted: Sun Mar 22, 2009 2:24 pm
by toad857
Rollo wrote:
elevatedgaze wrote:sounds like a bunch of pussies complaining in here to me. It's funny how people feel much more comfortable in their home over the internet calling people out, than actually doing it on the spot. quit bitching and climb. Safety issues is one thing, but all this other stuff is just pointless rambling.
gotta agree.

there's a fine line between calling out silly mistakes and trash talking people who are new to climbing. i was new to it once. so were we all...

the greatest things that i've heard people say about the red are not about the rock itself, but about the people and the attitudes. there's a certain charm to having an ego-free whiskey-drinkin' time in kentucky. the integrity of that charm gets eroded with each malicious sneer...

Posted: Sun Mar 22, 2009 2:24 pm
by 512OW
RRO wrote:
Andrew wrote: I am miserable up this high, all alone, I cry.
I knew there was a reason I liked you, RRO. :lol:

Posted: Sun Mar 22, 2009 2:38 pm
by L K Day
I remember a time when there were maybe eight to ten "regulars" active in the gorge. A time when almost every line was a potential first ascent, when there were hiking trails but no trails to the crags, no erosion, no cigarette butts, no wads of tape. Plenty of idiots, but no idiot climbers. The whole place was our private playground. There were maybe ten or so bolts total in place. I kind of thought it was OK, well, wonderful actually.

I guess most of today's climbers would have seen it as hell on earth. No bolts, no cams, no chalk, no sticky rubber. "I mean, how are you supposed to climb anything?" But let me tell you, it was incredible. Every weekend was an adventure.

Posted: Sun Mar 22, 2009 5:07 pm
by JR
Thanks for your thoughts on the Red of Old.
I wonder how your attitude and experience would have differed if you where born twenty years later?

Posted: Sun Mar 22, 2009 6:57 pm
by L K Day
I'd have been in the thick of things for sure. I used to dream about the big overhanging pocketed walls, but I knew that using 1/4" bolts was bullshit, and big fat bolts had not yet been introduced to the American climbing scene. I would have lobbied against grid bolting though, and there probably would have been some fights over all the trash at the base of crags. I had a pretty hot temper back in the day.

Posted: Mon Mar 23, 2009 12:48 am
by ynot
There are still several pristine crags. The routes aren't so good but it is nice. The saddle between Symphony and Jazz is one of my favorite spots. I usually see wildlife crossing there and the only trails are deer trails.

Posted: Mon Mar 23, 2009 2:02 am
by pigsteak
ynot wrote:There are still several pristine crags. The routes aren't so good but it is nice. The saddle between Symphony and Jazz is one of my favorite spots. I usually see wildlife crossing there and the only trails are deer trails.
and during spring break this week, I bet the wildllife was better than ever. You peeping ynot?

Posted: Mon Mar 23, 2009 2:08 am
by ynot
painting. workin 7 days a week while you guys play.

Posted: Mon Mar 23, 2009 3:34 am
by dipsi
ynot wrote:painting. workin 7 days a week while you guys play.
Welcome to my world, Partmer.

Posted: Mon Mar 23, 2009 7:38 pm
by rhunt
So anyways - back to the idots. Come on give me the latest. My new favorite thing to do on Monday mornings is to log on and read the latest weekend idot reports. This cry-fest about how mean redriverclimbing poster are is lame and don't get me started on the "remember how wonderful the red was back in 1981".