red tagged

Post by **charlie** » Fri Oct 17, 2008 3:55 pm

Why is this even popping up again?

All trolling aside it's really pretty simple......

......some people were raised right, have good manners, and know how to respect others. Some people are shit heads.

A thread on the internet isn't going to decrease the number of shitheads out there.

Post by **schwagpad** » Fri Oct 17, 2008 6:13 pm

If you truly care about the FA you will smear vaseline on all the holds at the end of every day and clean it off at the beginning. Easy solution.

Post by **SCIN** » Fri Oct 17, 2008 10:31 pm

Personally I would never jump on a red tagged route unless I heard the developer just isn't interested anymore or has given me the opportunity to jump on it. I once got confused and told someone that one of Pigsteak's lines was open even though it had a red tag on it. The dude sent it that day. Then I found out it was a different line Piggy was referring to. Man did I feel like an asshole! Actually it wasn't just me that got confused about it so misery loves company I guess.

These developers put a lot of money and hard work into bolting these lines. All of them do it for different reasons but holy shit man, they are building our playground. Why the hell would we not respect their wishes? Completely bizarre to me man.

Post by **512OW** » Fri Oct 17, 2008 11:27 pm

Regardless of Raethers reasons after the fact, he gave permission. If he wants to whine now that its a popular route (Its been sent like 6 times already... in the month its been open), then let him bitch.

Post by **caribe** » Sun Oct 19, 2008 8:21 am

Maggie: I could not agree more. I sent a PM to Ray about this ages ago. He also agreed. The reason that the FA was important back in the day was most probably that the FA was the bolter. The discovery, development, bolt placement and the willingness to share with others have been the standards of most of the routes that go up in the RED.

maggie wrote: i've seen in some guidebooks (and i believe on some route descriptions in the rrg guide book) where both the equipper and the fa-ist are listed. i don't know about anyone else, but when i see it, my heartfelt gratitude goes to the bolter, and i never really remember who got the fa. sorry.

Post by **TankAzz** » Sun Oct 19, 2008 10:24 pm

question: so if i want to sleep my way up the social status ladder in climbing, should i look for FA-ers or equippers? just curious....

Post by **512OW** » Sun Oct 19, 2008 10:53 pm

Neither. Climbing rappers are the way to go. Ha!

Post by **Jay** » Mon Oct 20, 2008 12:41 am

TankAzz wrote:question: so if i want to sleep my way up the social status ladder in climbing, should i look for FA-ers or equippers? just curious....

It ultimately depends on how well the FA-ers are equipped...

Post by **chriss** » Mon Oct 20, 2008 8:02 am

chriss wrote:
sendit wrote:are we still sore over blank canvas?
Pigsteak is probably sore about the routes people have done before him that he doesn't know about. I got on pistol gripped last spring, I figured kipp wouldn't mind if I didn't send. But it was so good, I couldn't make myself fall on purpose at the top. Oops.

At least my intentions were good.

Just to set the record straight, I was obviously joking. While climbing this weekend at the red, I overheard a group talking about some asshole that stole one of Kipp's projects before he sent it and was spraying about it on redriverclimbing. Pretty funny.

I actually did get on pistol gripped this weekend though, fun route. Most definitely not 11d, and yes I can tell the difference where as OW can not.

Post by **512OW** » Mon Oct 20, 2008 8:15 am

chriss wrote:
chriss wrote:
sendit wrote:are we still sore over blank canvas?
Pigsteak is probably sore about the routes people have done before him that he doesn't know about. I got on pistol gripped last spring, I figured kipp wouldn't mind if I didn't send. But it was so good, I couldn't make myself fall on purpose at the top. Oops.

At least my intentions were good.
Just to set the record straight, I was obviously joking. While climbing this weekend at the red, I overheard a group talking about some asshole that stole one of Kipp's projects before he sent it and was spraying about it on redriverclimbing. Pretty funny.

I actually did get on pistol gripped this weekend though, fun route. Most definitely not 11d, and yes I can tell the difference where as OW can not.

I wondered if maybe Horatio had hijacked your profile. What are you doin in the Red? Aren't you supposed to be in Wisconsin or Minnesota or some other god forsaken land?