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Posted: Mon Jul 07, 2008 6:30 pm
by caribe
Ascentionist wrote:and it's what soured my appetite for being a part of the RRG "community."
Spragwa wrote:The thing about being part of a close-knit community is that you get all of the traits of being in a family.
Spragwa, well-said. I was thinking the same thing when those three neighbors were bickering publicly.

Posted: Mon Jul 07, 2008 11:16 pm
by Ascentionist
I didn't really see it that way. People seem to hold grudges too long and let rumors and hearsay (and ridiculous RRC posts) drive wedges between them.

Posted: Tue Jul 08, 2008 9:52 am
by Steve
Ascentionist, that sounds like some families I know.

You can't choose your family, but you can choose your community. Except that you can't totally choose your climbing community because its a free country and by golly anyone can come climb in the Red River Gorge 'cause its public land. Then there is private land. You could have your own private club on private property and choose your own climbing community. Shoot you could have private land and start a private gardening club community. Or dog grooming communtiy. Or start a community of folks who train monkeys to herd cats. Or a comunity of Advanced D&D gamers. Or a community of idiots, like me.

Posted: Tue Jul 08, 2008 10:16 am
by krampus
How about a dog sitting community so I can climb at muir again.

Posted: Tue Jul 08, 2008 10:43 am
by Crankmas
Almost shaved my dog- happened just the other day

Posted: Tue Jul 08, 2008 1:59 pm
by Ascentionist
Steve wrote:Ascentionist, that sounds like some families I know.

You can't choose your family, but you can choose your community. Except that you can't totally choose your climbing community because its a free country and by golly anyone can come climb in the Red River Gorge 'cause its public land.
Very true. And don't think I harbor only bitter memories of climbing (and living most of my life) in the RRG. I don't, but I did truly come to hate the "scene" there. I had lots of great friends, but just didn't like the overall feel of the place after a few years.

I must admit, I contributed myself at times. I was immature, territorial and I still can't relate well to all you crazy people. I guess I'm just antisocial by nature and all social function or dysfunction is hard for me to digest.

I like not being part of any scene though. I've started cycling a lot more and have toyed with the idea of joining some local cycling club, but every time I think about it I see someone decked out in their team jersey almost knocking grandma on her cruiser off the bike path and I decide I'd rather just be my own team.

I guess that's why the last few years I climbed in the Red I primarily rope soloed. And I was happiest in my marathon solo bouldering forays.

Wait! Maybe it's me.

Nah! It must be all of you.

Posted: Tue Jul 08, 2008 2:03 pm
by Ascentionist
BTW, check out my latest solo adventure: biking Mount Evans Road from Echo Lake. Mt Evans is the highest paved road in NA and gains 4,000' or so in 14 miles. I had it to myself on July 4th with a semi-alpine start.

http://picasaweb.google.com/ascentionis ... itBikeRide

My long term goal is to do my first century ride from my home in Denver to Evans' summit and back which gains about 9,000'.

I'm definitely not ready for that yet, but hopefully soon.

Posted: Tue Jul 08, 2008 10:16 pm
by dipsi
Awwww......look at you! :D

Posted: Wed Jul 09, 2008 1:37 pm
by heidiramma
They're not corn rows, just multiple mini-mohawks. :wink:

Posted: Wed Jul 09, 2008 3:53 pm
by Ascentionist
YES! That's it!