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ah ha...mr. charlie, you too (not to) are playing into the stereotyping game..you assume "typical southerners" have good manners....just another silly notion that folks like to hang onto...(not too). southerners are no different than anywhere else in the US, no matter what we all like to think of our upbringing...you know the game....some dummies, some smartasses, some lovely, some not, some rich, some poor, some republicans, some democrats, some white, some black, some with good manners, some not, etc....

stereotyping behavior, (good or bad behavior) to a group based on geography or skin color has the same outcome...we can't pick to use the stereotypes that support our inner notion of what reality should be.

now, sorry to leave this fun, but it's off to Eldo to climb Yellow Spur.

and I am not talking shit about all the natives. 90% that I have met have been really cool and helpfull, about the only exception being the guy who stole my buddies radar detector at one of the gass stations, of course three other locals knew exactly who they were and the police had it back to us before the weekend was over. When I was 19, I used to chill with frank over at po boys used tires, he would buy us beer and we would....well help him out too. And the ladies at the chevron are about the BEST people I know. The random sample would be limited to those toting the flag (on their trucks) and most of them would probably not even be from slade. And though I spent a lot of my youth in the flatlands of illinois, as inconsistent as my life has been I would claim the red as being more my home and a safe haven for me as anywhere else. I am not trying to talk shit about the locals, I have always gotten along, even when I was with a black guy. I suppose I am being hyppocritical in streriotyping but only to those I see seeking out their steriotype.

I was in Florida for my sister wedding over the w/e and the grooms family who is actually from there--not transplants from Jersey or anything. The whole family born & raised in Largo, Florida. Anyway, someone says "Hey, are y'all from up north, too?" I said "Oh, no, we're from KY" They laughed & said that was definitely up north. I had never been told I was from up north before & got a kick out of that. As far as the flag thing goes, I remember being in college in Columbia, KY and seeing black people at the county fair that had confederate flags. I was so confused I didn't know what to think. My uncle was in the army w/ a black guy from the south somewhere that proudly displayed it on his pick up truck. How crazy is that? Something about history & you can't change your past or something.

Specifically about the significance of the "Battle Flag of the Confederacy":

There's no way to say that the flag isn't deeply associated with the Confederacy. So what does the Confederacy represent? I probably have a view that is at 'one end of the spectrum'. But what I want to ask is wether, from the perspective of people at the 'southern end of the spectrum', I am off-base in my views: The formation of the Confederacy was deeply anti-democratic in that they chose to give up on working within the American democratic system. That the formation of the Confederacy was an act of treason against America? (The greatest act of treason in our history?) And, yeah, for all the talk that the secession wasn't really about slavery - well, it was. Am I off base here?

(Why do I care? Well, you hear right-wingers claim that 'liberals hate America'. But it seems to me that the right-wing are the intellectual and cultural descendants of the treasonous Confederates, who so hated America that they tried to steal a big chunk of the country, and that 'liberals' are the descendants of the people who fought and died to protect America. Kinda screwy.)

asfd

What do they call someone who is gay in the deep south?

Homosex-y,all

tomdarch wrote:Specifically about the significance of the "Battle Flag of the Confederacy":

There's no way to say that the flag isn't deeply associated with the Confederacy. So what does the Confederacy represent? I probably have a view that is at 'one end of the spectrum'. But what I want to ask is wether, from the perspective of people at the 'southern end of the spectrum', I am off-base in my views: The formation of the Confederacy was deeply anti-democratic in that they chose to give up on working within the American democratic system. That the formation of the Confederacy was an act of treason against America? (The greatest act of treason in our history?) And, yeah, for all the talk that the secession wasn't really about slavery - well, it was. Am I off base here?

(Why do I care? Well, you hear right-wingers claim that 'liberals hate America'. But it seems to me that the right-wing are the intellectual and cultural descendants of the treasonous Confederates, who so hated America that they tried to steal a big chunk of the country, and that 'liberals' are the descendants of the people who fought and died to protect America. Kinda screwy.)

Tom - I am not the "perspective of people at the 'southern end of the spectrum'" because I am from Northeast Ohio(hell I never even heard of country music until I moved to Columbus in 1990) But for what its worth, I agree with the above.

This might be a little off topic, but at miguel's yesterday there was a family eating pizza. Strange noticed that the one lady had a tattoo of a swastica on her leg. As I was eating my food I could hear them yell at each other constantly, and say some really horrible things to their 5 year old son. I then noticed that their dog was named Hitler. I was confused why they were yelling at hitler, but then I realized it was their poorly trained dog. They had another dog with a messed up name but I forget what it was now. This family was pure white trash, filled with hate towards everything, and little concern for others around.

To top it off when they left instead of backing up and leaving like everyone else, they had plenty of room because no one was parked up front, they just drove their van down to the back and turned around in the camp ground.

Let me remind you that this was just a normal looking white trash family, not a group of skin head looking young men.

I think Strange said it best "Its 2007, what the F*** is wrong with people?"

Also at one point the mother said these wonderful words of wisdom, "Let that dumbass fall, he stop when he its the ground, but we ain't takin your dumbass to the hospital." Said to their five year old child

Andrew wrote:This family was pure white trash, filled with hate towards everything, and little concern for others around.

Nope - it's not their fault they're poor-ish and have frequent run ins with law enforcement (I assume...) It's clearly the fault of black people, hispanics, homosexuals, Catholics, atheists and the Jewish banking conspiracy that runs the world. Nope - not their fault at all.

Andrew, that was a beautiful example of subtle spray about how you were climbing mid-week while others on this board weren't. And all of it craftily hidden under the guise of telling a story about other people. Props.