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In Kentucky you can't fail a student for behavioral reasons because it would interfere with Federal funding. "No Child Left Behind" has meant "No Child Can Get an F." It's insane. Not only do the parents expect their stupid children to excel no matter what, the school boards only want the kids to be able to pass a multiple choice test each year, no matter what.

At least this kid could write a sign.

they have open response and on demand writing as well.....

Huggybone wrote:Ancorage daily news wrote:

"On the other side, lawyers argue that promoting drugs or alcohol at school events has long been banned by school policies. They contend the students were attending the torch parade DURING SCHOOL HOURS AS PART OF A SCHOOL SANCIONTED EVENT."

"School officials are especially troubled by the 9th Circuit decision to hold Morse personally liable for violating Frederick's First Amendment rights. Removing her official immunity will make it hard for officials across the country to interpret school board policies, they contend."

The principal abosultly did the right thing. The courts of this country are unified in this goal: to elimianate a school's right to maintain a positive environment. This means: to make it so that school officials are afraid to enforce school rules.

I think that there's a big dividing line here - this is a public school. I went to a private high school where the rules were that the school did have a say in what I did off campus. That was something that I (effectively) agreed to in order to attend that school.

This case is dealing with a public school and, too bad for you, the rules are different. Public schools are forms of our government and are paid for with our tax dollars. As such the government employee in question has severe limits on what (s)he can do to limit or suppress the political/religious rights of a citizen off of the school grounds.

In fact the school official did the wrong thing by interfering with this guy while he was off campus and out of school exercising his right to unfettered political and religious speech. The official is facing personal liability because (s)he acted so far out of the bounds.

(It dawned on me while reading this thread that yet another problem with the attempt to destroy public education in the US with 'vouchers' is that when we've closed all the public schools and are dumping tons of our tax dollars into madrasas, er, I mean low quality religious schools, controlling idiots will be able to mess with non-conforming kids' speech 24/7! Yay!)

The voucher act is not the only way in which public school is under attack.

I'm sorry, but, during the school day, in front of the school, during a school event?
The fact that even one of you thinks the pricipal is a controlling idiot for encroaching on "bong hits for jesus" (am I reading this right? you are calling it a religious expression? get real) is just freaking crazy. Some punk kid deliberatly decided to push it as far as he could, and the supreme court will pat him on the back. Make a fucking hero out of the kid, like he is Rosa Parks. Everyone thinks school discipline is a little game. It is not. It is where children learn the boundaries of acceptable behavior. When those boundaries are stretched, broken, or taken away by a judge, the children loose out. Employers complain that kids out of high school don't know how to act in a business envoronment. That is because schools no longer have a business envoronment. I've watched teachers let serious stuff slide becauser they were soft, every time it makes me cringe, because that shows all the other kids that the rules are not enforced.

oh tomdarch, you show your unfettered bias ..ever heard of the Edison schools? not religious, but sure as shit private. but of course, anything that improves our failing public school system has to be a ploy by the religious nuts to make you all baptists...

vouchers are the best idea that will never see the light of day. you like the public school your child attends, then you get to leave them there. no one will force you to send them elsewhere. for a group of folks who pride themselves on choice, opposing vouchers is plain absurdity.

I guess it was around 1968 or so and my fellow fifth graders and I were forced to remove the STP stickers from our notebooks, apparently there was a recreational drug in use at the time that was of course presumed we were endorsing- being 11 yrs old we just liked free stickers. Please cue Won't Get Fooled Again

This will inevitably lead to schools suspending students for what they post on their websites, facebook, and boards like this.

inevitably.....

Crankmas wrote:........my fellow fifth graders and I were forced to remove the STP stickers from our notebooks...........

Whats wrong with 100 kiloPascals at 273.15 Kelvin. It may be a little cold but sounds like good climbing weather to me.