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well hell, KD, then stick around. Just make sure you sack up when you click here

Sorry about the pic. I didn't see any naughty bits so I figured it was okay. Those slack-ass mods should have caught it I suppose.

No problem, thanks.

so, any recomendations on a good working, long lasting trad rope. I've been looking at a blue water excelerator (spelling might be off) because it's a 70 meter but I havent used their ropes before. The mammut had the best hand of any rope I've ever had but it just didnt stand the time test for me.

KD I have a Bluewater Accelerator with a double dry treatment. I like it a great deal. The hand is nice and the rope has not become stiff over time like PMI's tend to do. It is also wearing very minimally. I do hate the way it can stick in my belay device (Jaws) when it's humid outside, though. The dry coating has kept it nice and clean (and dry of course), but I think it doesn't like humidity.

I'd definitely get another one of these ropes, though, and with the dry treatment - despite the sticking issue. It's not that big of a problem.

I think it's more the Jaws,Sandy. I have one too and it does it alot.

KD,
try a Sterling Marathon 10.3. I had one for two years and climbed on it for an average of 3 days a week. It held up great.

Mj

ynot, that's odd. I only notice it sticking when I use it with my rope, but you may be right.

I have been using the grigri wrong all this time. Maybe that's why my ropes have so many kinks. Guess I will start using an ATC more often.

toddc wrote:I have been using the grigri wrong all this time. Maybe that's why my ropes have so many kinks. Guess I will start using an ATC more often.

Just use the gri-gri properly... we have gri-gri's set up at every rope station at our climbing gym. Now you are talking, these ropes get high traffic! Probably 100+ climbers per day on a single rope station every Friday, Saturday, Sunday, Tuesday, and Thursday. We check our equipment once a month and our average rope replacement rate is like 8 months to a year. Sometimes longer... That is why I asked earlier how many people have actually had to retire a rope because they were using a gri-gri? Just doesn't make since...

I have had some sterling ropes and liked them for sport. I used to use the vdry when sterling made those but i wore them out fast on trad climbs. I haven't had a blue water before and like that it comes in 70 meters too, gives you longer pitches. I'm leaning toward one. I still tend to believe that putting my rope in the bottom of my pack was probably a bad idea for it though. I tend to carry big pieces and draws, slings, etc. and my rack can be pretty weighty. I also tend to keep my pack packed between weekends, In summers i almost never unpack because I'm off everyday and this is bound to compact things.